If you take the number of elephants that are still alive and multiply that by per capita supplies of toilet paper, then divide it by the healthcare system, plus the number of used trumpets in Iowa, there's your answer!

Simple math.

I don't see peanuts factored anywhere into that equation.

Yes, that is the nuts factor.

us to do what should have been done decades ago. Health Care for All.

and our principles and policies with Republicans -- no matter how often toxic voices spin this massive deception. And never listen to Sanders' despicable and delusional notions on this subject, which bear as much relation to reality as Trump's. We are incredibly different.

Not voting Democrat is going to cost the lives and/or the lives of loved ones of many of those who fell for these lies, and subsequently tragically failed their duty as citizens. Unfortunately, even more others will also reap their whirlwind.

Here's something honest to take note of. No spin.

"American Federation of Teachers endorses Biden for president: The announcement means Biden has the nod from the nation’s two largest teachers unions."

Tell that to him

and unbelievably crass to the point of depravity to weaponize a pending holocaust for dishonest partisan spins. That despicable people create them is no excuse for adopting them.

But it was disgusting to me when there was no pandemic and only the partisan dishonesty. Imo, commitment to truth is inseparable from both decency and wisdom. Don't got it, don't got them.

On the plus side for those inclined, though, there's a whole national and planetary holocaust coming to weaponize for dishonest propaganda. This'll work for foreign polity swiftboating also, of course; every past decision can be twisted by those who don't think small to blame Democrats for many millions of COVID deaths. And will.

Once again, complain to him.

It was during the debate. Bernie was saying all we needed to do is have m4a and covid would be taken care of. Biden pointed out that Italy has universal healthcare and yet they are getting slammed. Meaning, you also need proper leadership, not just universal healthcare. That was the context of this .

We might have had a better handle on the epidemic early on. But that's assuming we had a functioning healthcare system in the first place.

Obamacare was a bandaid, not the cure.

IS CRITICAL TO PANDEMIC CONTAINMENT.

Understandable that Sanders' and Trump's attack dogs would avoid all mention of that reality since VP Biden is now the only strong, competent leader available to the American people.

If you want change, join the team and get your people in the government and make some real difference. Whining about it from the outside accomplishes nothing

Still option b

(Two choices 1 - Join the team ; b - contribute to the demise of the USA)

Right now, Governor Cuomo of all people is more out front on the crisis than Biden.

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...a coordinated strategy, and is getting familiar with their positions so he can step right in and LEAD once he's elected President.

Speaking of twitter and "social media", what's the other guy doing right now instead of participating in a Senate vote?

Doing his job. As is Cuomo, who is the sitting Governor of New York.

Biden's been on the phone with governors and Congressman, 7-11 hours a day. Interviewing for cabinet members and other key officials. Coordinating their activities since the real President is unable to do so. He is NOT president, nor is he a Senator, and certainly not one has missed vote after vote in the last year.

He's also setting up a spare room in his house to be a TV studio. Will be doing regular updates from there probably starting tomorrow

He's not going on TV with hand-picked "Drs" to hold ads and photo-ops for his campaign slogans, while undermining the clear nominee for the Democratic party.

Join the f-ing team

Not public appearances or addresses. Is this how he's supposed to campaign? He gave up oxygen to that orange clown.

I block people like you, who have no clue and no interest in learning, just whining and undermining our society

How's this for Sanders not doing his job

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287682120

until you brought him up.

than Joe Biden..

But you people didn't care.

The only people that would be without health insurance would be those that willingly choose to forego it.

For those people -- mostly young, healthy people that think they are invincible and would rather spend their money elsewhere -- we should reinstitute the individual mandate penalties so that the rest of us aren't stuck with the bill when/if they end up getting sick and don't have healthcare insurance due to their own selfish actions.

All you want to do is negatively label those who will be uninsured under Biden

Don't fudge, show your work.

give people who should be insured under medicaid expansion (poor) health insurance. The states did this not Obama when they failed to extend Medicaid. Really you should consider researching the topic before posting something like this.

Any good debater knows that research is necessary to win the game. Some on this thread should do the research before posting, imho.

but despite having a supermajority, moderates chose to capitulate to the goops, watering it down until it was vulnerable to gooper ratfuckery at the state level. And ironically, and no goop voted for the bill anyway.

Anyways, Biden's own plan says nearly 10 million people will be left uninsured. I suggest you read it.

I read Biden's plan. It includes a public option. It expands Medicaid no matter what state you live in.

It's not Medicare for all, because it doesn't exclude the current insurance industry.

Somehow, I think that's what you don't like about it.

Or maybe you didn't read about Biden's plan. I just did. I think, if he can pull it off, it will work.

SO! Tell me about this 10 million uninsured. They are not at the very low end - that's covered by Medicaid. They aren't the elderly - they're covered by Medicare.

There's a tax credit so that your health insurance can't be more than 8.5% of your income. So, it's affordable. If you're making $15K a year with no kids. $1275/year or $100/month. It won't be easy, but it's doable.

From what I can see, if you are uninsured on Biden's plan, it's because you want to be.

But, OK, let's say you can't afford $100/month. Is that the 10 million uninsured?

I like the plan. It seems comprehensive.

I have no idea what you just said

admitted that MFA won't even pass the house. Pres. Obama achieved healthcare for millions what has Sanders ever achieved? He never even got close to passing MFA, and he never will. We will build on the ACA with a public option and end up with universal care...maybe a better plan than one that was passed almost 100 years ago. Of course we could end up with no health care if Sanders disgraceful behavior in not conceding helps reelect Trump.

If they just grow a backbone finally, we can finally make progress.

I'm glad ACA saved your daughter's life, but right now ACA is making people pay for their own fucking coronavirus tests and quarantines.

do very well with a mixed healthcare system. Single payer is one answer but not the only one. Expanding Medicaid even more, a public option for all who want it, and increased subsidies could get us very close to where we need to be.

as he would never get his plan through Congress. Do you at least recognize that Biden's plan would cover more people in comparison to what the US has now, not to mention that it's a system the Repubs want to destroy?
Sometimes, you cannot get everything done at once. Out of a responsibility to millions who rely on saving Obamacare and millions who will be among those being covered for the first time, we should strive for improvements we can implement now. There is nothing written in stone that further progress cannot be achieved after building on Obamacare.
This 10 million number is an often used talking point by BS' followers, too often as an excuse to not vote for Biden in the general. Please don't endanger the progress that millions rely on because it might not be perfect.

Sanders up in Vermont doing God knows what...no matter how you continue to smear Biden, Sanders has lost the primary and should get out...never thought some here would want to risk Trump getting reelected.

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if he was so humiliatingly defeated by the guy with that plan.

Sid

Even if we win back control of the Senate, it will not pass. There is zero chance we get to 51 votes, let alone 60.


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Even COVID-19 will not change the blockers

take the Senate in Nov. Then it can pass with 51. What Democratic senator will vote against the Public Option now?

but I have serious doubts.

Especially given the truly insane explosion in the national debt coming like a freight train in a tunnel. Many will turn deficit hawks I fear. Plus the insurance firms, doctor's lobbies, big pharma, etc will fight it tooth and nail, to the death, as laid out in that link.

Too many variables atm, to definitively make a complete concrete call, but I am pretty comfortable saying it will fail. COVID-19 is the new wild card, and that remains to be seen, so I will give you that point.

The delta on EVERYTHING in life is off the charts atm.

seem to believe that this crisis will be the nail in the coffin for the Reagan era and that people will actually demand big government programs that help people. That would be a silver lining to this horrible pandemic

guessing games.

I tend to see things these days, in terms of systemic analysis, as tilting towards outcomes that come closer to the worst possible than simply bad. Trump and the sycophantic RWers of all stripes who have hitched their carts to him are in the process of destroying enough of the fabric of the culture and enough of the structures of governance that it will takes decades to repair the rending. It is a non-stop shitshow.

For the other 14 states, whose governors rejected the expansion, the only people covered by Medicaid are pregnant women and children.

Lose your employment, lose your insurance. Sure you can get COBRA for awhile, but it's painfully expensive. National health care. Now

And, let me say one more time, no one likes their insurance company. They may like their doctor, but not their insurance company. I don't need a middleman insurance company. Paying them for what? Profiting off people's bad health is not good, and medicine for profit is even worse.

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