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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:25 AM Apr 2019

"...owns two rescue dogs, and plays the goddamn piano. He's actually terrifying... "

Like that's a bad thing?


Wonder Boy Pete Buttigieg is a gay Harvard alum, fluent in Gramsci, Joyce, and Norwegian. And he’s the Democrats’ folksiest heartland hope. Really!
By Olivia Nuzzi

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“I think everything about this is as improbable as it is well aligned,” Buttigieg told me. “There’s that line about me being a laboratory concoction of what a politician might be. I get where that comes from, but then again, in what laboratory would you have cooked up as your entry in a presidential contest ‘mid-size-city midwestern mayor who’s not even 40 yet,’ you know?” He’s 37, and it doesn’t take much imagination to see why a skeptic might assess what’s on offer here and come away in disbelief that a single, organically grown person prone to consultantspeak could check so many boxes relevant to this moment, including, I guess, those for the always advantageous political qualities of “false modesty” and the “ability to be all things to all people.”

Sick of old people? He looks like Alex P. Keaton. Scared of young people? He looks like Alex P. Keaton. Religious? He’s a Christian. Atheist? He’s not weird about it. Wary of Washington? He’s from flyover country. Horrified by flyover country? He has degrees from Harvard and Oxford. Make the President Read Again? He learned Norwegian to read Erlend Loe. Traditional? He’s married. Woke? He’s gay. Way behind the rest of the country on that? He’s not too gay. Worried about socialism? He’s a technocratic capitalist. Worried about technocratic capitalists? He’s got a whole theory about how our system of “democratic capitalism” has to be a whole lot more “democratic.” If you squint hard enough to not see color, some people say, you can almost see Obama the inspiring professor. Oh, and he’s the son of an immigrant, a Navy vet, speaks seven foreign languages (in addition to Norwegian, Arabic, Spanish, Maltese, Dari, French, and Italian), owns two rescue dogs, and plays the goddamn piano. He’s actually terrifying. What mother wouldn’t love this guy?

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David Axelrod, Obama’s longtime strategist and now Buttigieg’s friend, observed that Buttigieg has something in common not only with Obama but with the two Democratic presidents before him: faith. “His fluency on faith and his willingness to speak about it is an asset,” he said. “Carter, Clinton, and Obama — they all shared that quality. It was one of the cues that opened the door to voters.”

Eric Lesser, now a Massachusetts state senator, is a friend of “Peter’s” from Harvard. He worked on the 2008 campaign and then for Axelrod in the Obama White House. “He reminds me of the very early phases of President Obama,” Lesser said. “Just the fact that he is so deeply thoughtful and intellectual, and also somebody who is relatable.”

Axelrod said there are “two ways” to look at the race: You either “beat Trump at his own game,” and alienate crucial voters in the process, or you “build a bridge for people who may have voted for Trump and who may like some of the things he’s done but are troubled by him.” Buttigieg is uniquely able — and willing — to do this, Axelrod said, because such voters helped get him reelected (with 80 percent of the vote) when Mike Pence — a born-again Christian and zealous opponent of the LGBTQ community — was the governor of Indiana. Buttigieg is often asked how he would defend himself against Trump on the debate stage, or once the insult-comic campaign alter ego logs back on full time. He always says the same thing, that you’ll never be able to beat him with a savage one-liner, that beating him will mean ignoring him, to some degree, so that someone else — and their ideas — can get some oxygen.

But before he gets to present his theory of the case against Trump, he’s got to get through his case against the other Democratic contenders. Or at least that’s how I thought a primary worked. Buttigieg either sees things differently or wants to avoid meaningful bickering at this early stage with his competitors, and so he’s pretending to. “I think the thing about having so many of us in the field is that, for somebody like me, you’re not competing against any individual. You’re competing against the house,” he said. “And it’s possible, in that way, to — I think — run your own plan and talk about your own case and let others figure out for themselves all the ways in which I am simply not like any of the others.” Operationally, the strategy of his campaign seems to be: Pick up enough Democrats who found Trump’s message appealing to actually win in Iowa and New Hampshire, then ride the momentum and publicity (he’ll say yes to any interview; see here, and here) into Super Tuesday. And from there …

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primary today, I would vote for:
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"...owns two rescue dogs, and plays the goddamn piano. He's actually terrifying... " (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2019 OP
Terrifying because he so accomplished in so many ways marylandblue Apr 2019 #1
Yes! "What mother wouldn't love this guy?" babylonsister Apr 2019 #2
Amazingly good idea and it would focus on the positive, efhmc Apr 2019 #3
I'm not sure the press will let him. n/t ChiTownDenny Apr 2019 #4
They will, because he knows how to talk to the press. marylandblue Apr 2019 #7
OK, I had to laugh at that. shanny Apr 2019 #16
Yeah, sounds strange, but he did have a quick mind, he learned it as a radio broadcaster. marylandblue Apr 2019 #22
Nice. I'm glad to hear that. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2019 #17
Pete can simply say "At least i'm not a draft dodger with some feigned "injury"; i served" oldsoftie Apr 2019 #5
I think he has no intention of going down any low roads. He is too smart for that. Tipperary Apr 2019 #6
But you cannot just ignore someone like trump. He's easily flustered by a comeback. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #14
I think Buttigieg can handle him with ease. Time will tell. Tipperary Apr 2019 #20
I do too. He's very quick on his feet & doesnt need a written speech or notes. Sounds "normal"! oldsoftie Apr 2019 #23
I am waiting for the swift boating to start. AJT Apr 2019 #10
I'm sure he knows how to handle it. marylandblue Apr 2019 #11
It's starting... babylonsister Apr 2019 #12
K&R brer cat Apr 2019 #8
I hope if he's nominated mountain grammy Apr 2019 #9
I've been watching him recently radical noodle Apr 2019 #13
He is everything the Orange menace and supporters lack. gordianot Apr 2019 #15
Republicans want him as the candidate to energize the religious right Indygram Apr 2019 #18
I think their numbers will be met, and exceeded not_the_one Apr 2019 #19
I added Pete to my short list NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #21
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. Terrifying because he so accomplished in so many ways
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:43 AM
Apr 2019

so it's like you wasted your life, but he's so nice, you can't actually say that.

Also he plans to "ignore Trump to some extent" which should terrify Trump, because he hates being ignored, and will bait Pete, but Pete will only respond when it's in his strategic interest, which will be totally devestating

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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
2. Yes! "What mother wouldn't love this guy?"
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:45 AM
Apr 2019

I think ignoring dt will be masterful and will drive him crazy!

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efhmc

(14,726 posts)
3. Amazingly good idea and it would focus on the positive,
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:55 AM
Apr 2019

which we desperately need right now.

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ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
4. I'm not sure the press will let him. n/t
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:01 AM
Apr 2019
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
7. They will, because he knows how to talk to the press.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:15 AM
Apr 2019

It's not difficult conceptually, but you need to have a quick mind and know where you want to go. Reagan did it by saying, "There you go again, saying we'll blow up the world, but really..." then he'd talk about whatever he wanted to talk about.

Pete has his own way of doing that.

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shanny

(6,709 posts)
16. OK, I had to laugh at that.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:19 AM
Apr 2019

"Reagan" and "quick mind" don't often collide in the same sentence.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
22. Yeah, sounds strange, but he did have a quick mind, he learned it as a radio broadcaster.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:35 PM
Apr 2019

He was a radio announcer for baseball games. But he wasn't at the games, he just got telegrams that said things like "Yankees hit first base." That was boring, so he made up exciting plays on the spot to keep it interesting.

I think that explains a lot about him.

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BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
17. Nice. I'm glad to hear that.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:29 AM
Apr 2019

The press has become such an enemy to Democrats, if he knows how to change their attention, it’ll be a blessing.

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oldsoftie

(12,545 posts)
5. Pete can simply say "At least i'm not a draft dodger with some feigned "injury"; i served"
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:02 AM
Apr 2019

In a REAL war, not one with venereal diseases.

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Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
6. I think he has no intention of going down any low roads. He is too smart for that.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:12 AM
Apr 2019

He will stick to the high road.

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oldsoftie

(12,545 posts)
14. But you cannot just ignore someone like trump. He's easily flustered by a comeback.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:46 AM
Apr 2019

It just has to be a good one.

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Tipperary

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20. I think Buttigieg can handle him with ease. Time will tell.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:25 PM
Apr 2019

Rump is a moron.

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oldsoftie

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23. I do too. He's very quick on his feet & doesnt need a written speech or notes. Sounds "normal"!
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:17 PM
Apr 2019
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AJT

(5,240 posts)
10. I am waiting for the swift boating to start.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:56 AM
Apr 2019

You know the right will do that when they start to feel threatened.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
11. I'm sure he knows how to handle it.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:05 AM
Apr 2019

I can see elements of how he would do it already. They could make his issue of his sexual orientation. But he's already addressed it. He's out, he's proud, and thanks to decisions made in Washington, his marriage brings him closer to God. Who do you want making decisions for you in Washington?

See how he turned that negative into a positive and changed the subject to something that actually matters? That's his strategy.

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mountain grammy

(26,621 posts)
9. I hope if he's nominated
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:44 AM
Apr 2019

he chooses Elizabeth Warren for his VP.

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radical noodle

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13. I've been watching him recently
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 10:26 AM
Apr 2019

and watched yesterday as he blew people away with his announcement speech. I think I'm going to send him some money, and I'm almost to the place of switching from Undecided to Pete.

That's not to say I don't love all our candidates with one exception. I won't be angry and devastated if he doesn't win, but I want him to have an opportunity to win people over. He's a breath of fresh air.

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gordianot

(15,238 posts)
15. He is everything the Orange menace and supporters lack.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:17 AM
Apr 2019

My wife “moderate Democrat” is committed. I am getting really close.

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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
18. Republicans want him as the candidate to energize the religious right
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:34 AM
Apr 2019

to come out and vote.

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not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
19. I think their numbers will be met, and exceeded
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:40 PM
Apr 2019

by the religious left.

They will hopefully be quite vocal, this time around.

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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
21. I added Pete to my short list
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:54 PM
Apr 2019

Still undecided; I want to hear more from all candidates, but he's high on my list.

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