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Nina Turner rides to the rescue... (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2019 OP
Wasn't she vocally opposed to Clinton during the general last time? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #1
Yes, and she's on record as open to supporting candidates other than Democrats. George II Apr 2019 #5
Turner HATES Secretary of state Hillary Clinton. (Still hates Madame Secretary Clinton) trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #49
She supported her at first I believe. JHan Apr 2019 #61
Of course she does. MrsCoffee Apr 2019 #2
🤮 we can do it Apr 2019 #3
Oboy, Nina ("I voted for Jill Stein") Turner is starting early. I've heard her speak.... George II Apr 2019 #4
She's awful! So..why do that bernie? Thekaspervote Apr 2019 #6
She is a reflection of her boss. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #24
Yes. Cha Apr 2019 #59
I'm sure that correction will help peggysue2 Apr 2019 #7
It looks like the transcript of his speech at the 2018 Center for American Progress Conference ehrnst Apr 2019 #8
Oh yeah, busy scrubbing BS' history of a speech? Cha Apr 2019 #48
The internet never forgets. lapucelle Apr 2019 #51
Thanks for that bit of BS' history.. Cha Apr 2019 #53
Thanks! lapucelle Apr 2019 #55
hypocrisy is thy name. David Sirota, Nina Turner, and briahna joy gray, and any campaign that hires still_one Apr 2019 #9
Who are they trying to appeal to? Politicub Apr 2019 #10
A neo-liberal think tank. dogman Apr 2019 #11
Were they involved in all that when Bernie spoke there? mcar Apr 2019 #12
He's speaking on FAUX tonight. dogman Apr 2019 #13
I'm looking forward to reading a recap Politicub Apr 2019 #17
I don't blame you. dogman Apr 2019 #18
See post #8 mcar Apr 2019 #22
He thanked them for all of the hard work they had been doing? WeekiWater Apr 2019 #36
Is that all it is, or has it done some good? Politicub Apr 2019 #15
They have been smearing Bernie and others. dogman Apr 2019 #19
The irony is lost on you. Bernie joined the circular firing squad with his letter... Politicub Apr 2019 #23
Which Democratic candidate did Bernie attack? dogman Apr 2019 #25
Yes I've seen this already on Facebook, almost word for word... OKNancy Apr 2019 #16
I know what is behind Justice Democrats. dogman Apr 2019 #21
Ah, the dreaded 'neoliberal' smear. Anyone who dares to criticize Saint Bernard comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #26
Right, how many times Bernie says millionaire is such a critical issue to voters. dogman Apr 2019 #27
Corporate shill? Drink! Politicub Apr 2019 #28
Nailed it! comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #30
Those are the merits? dogman Apr 2019 #32
I'm just showing you what it looks like to people outside of Bernie's orbit Politicub Apr 2019 #35
So CAP/TP is your line in the sand? dogman Apr 2019 #38
And Strawman for the win... ehrnst Apr 2019 #40
Yes apparently CAP has distanced itself from TP. dogman Apr 2019 #45
I have no idea what you're talking about with lines in the sand. Politicub Apr 2019 #44
I tune out the second I hear or see the word "neoliberal" NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #41
Or you can educate yourself to it's meaning. Then you can be the judge of.. aidbo Apr 2019 #63
I'll just tune out NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #64
Corporate shills? What about people who praise them at their own conference? ehrnst Apr 2019 #34
Were they attacking Democratic candidates then? dogman Apr 2019 #37
They didn't write the Thinkprogress piece.... ehrnst Apr 2019 #39
If CAP was an upstart with no history who starts attacking all dems, Politicub Apr 2019 #42
This. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #52
So why did Bernie give a speech at their conference last May praising them? ehrnst Apr 2019 #33
This is coming from a Jill Stein supporter Gothmog Apr 2019 #14
Oh My. ismnotwasm Apr 2019 #20
Nina Turner BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #29
Another Bernie or bust (trump?) supporter awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #31
Despise her..nt helpisontheway Apr 2019 #43
Oh yes.. nina turner.. the fixer. Jill Stein advocate.. Cha Apr 2019 #46
Meh... I blocked her ass on Twitter for a reason Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #47
Washington Post-Opinion: Sanders's testiness will revive long-standing concerns Gothmog Apr 2019 #50
We Don't.. BS is already Too Divisive. Cha Apr 2019 #54
From Prof. Tribe Gothmog Apr 2019 #56
It's Perfect! I just saw your Cha Apr 2019 #57
Hmpf ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #58
Fuck Jill Stein RhodeIslandOne Apr 2019 #60
... Scurrilous Apr 2019 #62
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
1. Wasn't she vocally opposed to Clinton during the general last time?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:45 AM
Apr 2019

Wasn't she a Stein supporter?

I see she hasn't changed one bit.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Yes, and she's on record as open to supporting candidates other than Democrats.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:48 AM
Apr 2019

Three of Sanders' top echelon staffers opposed Clinton and voted for Jill Stein.

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trueblue2007

(17,219 posts)
49. Turner HATES Secretary of state Hillary Clinton. (Still hates Madame Secretary Clinton)
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:04 PM
Apr 2019
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JHan

(10,173 posts)
61. She supported her at first I believe.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 09:14 AM
Apr 2019

Around 2015. I suppose she couldn't get enough rank on the Clinton campaign so joined up with Bernie.

Seems anyone who points out a flaw in Sanders' policies is destined to be demonized and not engaged with. His people went after urban institute as well, which even I found shocking.

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
2. Of course she does.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:46 AM
Apr 2019

Remember when Planned Parenthood was deemed "establishment" by Sanders?

This kind of shit is toxic.

Can't wait for him and his campaign people to get off the 2020 stage.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
4. Oboy, Nina ("I voted for Jill Stein") Turner is starting early. I've heard her speak....
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:48 AM
Apr 2019

....the last thing she should be doing is fixing others' headlines and/or speech.

Did anyone catch her a week or so ago speaking about "red people and yellow people"? Psst, Nina, this is 2019!

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Thekaspervote

(32,770 posts)
6. She's awful! So..why do that bernie?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:54 AM
Apr 2019
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comradebillyboy

(10,149 posts)
24. She is a reflection of her boss.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:12 PM
Apr 2019
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peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
7. I'm sure that correction will help
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:04 PM
Apr 2019

Easy-peasy. Maybe throw a life-preserver to Turner. Because no one is buying the spin this time out.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. It looks like the transcript of his speech at the 2018 Center for American Progress Conference
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:08 PM
Apr 2019

has been scrubbed - at least from his FB page:



But here's the video:



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Cha

(297,249 posts)
48. Oh yeah, busy scrubbing BS' history of a speech?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:58 PM
Apr 2019

What's up with that, BS?

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Cha

(297,249 posts)
53. Thanks for that bit of BS' history..
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:56 PM
Apr 2019

If you take the "@" out of the url.. the link works!

https://medium.com/SenSanders/breaking-up-the-oligarchy-603bc0d47264

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still_one

(92,195 posts)
9. hypocrisy is thy name. David Sirota, Nina Turner, and briahna joy gray, and any campaign that hires
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:11 PM
Apr 2019

people to top positions that voted for Jill Stein


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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
10. Who are they trying to appeal to?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:27 PM
Apr 2019

I’m not sure who the Sander’s campaign wants to attract. It’s certainly not me - a mid-40s gay man and feminist with views as liberal and progressive as they come.

And it’s actions like smearing a liberal think tank that cause me to move even further away.

If the end game is to win, I don’t understand how his strategy is going to achieve that. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
11. A neo-liberal think tank.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:36 PM
Apr 2019

The Center for American Progress is an organization whose massive annual budget is bankrolled by billionaires and corporate executives that profit from finance, pharmaceutical companies, fossil fuels, and sending American jobs overseas.

Last year alone, they took funding from financial giants like Bank of America and Blackstone, whose CEO was chair of Trump's business council and is a leading Republican donor.

Before that, they cashed checks from companies like BlueCross Blue Shield, Pfizer, WalMart, and defense contractors like General Dynamics and BAE Systems.

They also took hundreds of thousands of dollars from the fossil fuel pumping United Arab Emirates while the country was bombing innocent civilians in Yemen – a war Bernie has led the fight to end.

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mcar

(42,333 posts)
12. Were they involved in all that when Bernie spoke there?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:43 PM
Apr 2019
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dogman

(6,073 posts)
13. He's speaking on FAUX tonight.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:46 PM
Apr 2019

Doesn't mean he supports them.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. I'm looking forward to reading a recap
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:54 PM
Apr 2019

I’m a cord cutter so I don’t get Fox News.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
18. I don't blame you.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:55 PM
Apr 2019

Sadly Faux viewers vote.

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mcar

(42,333 posts)
22. See post #8
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:07 PM
Apr 2019

It sure sounds like he supported CAP when he spoke to them. He congratulated them on the important work they do.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
36. He thanked them for all of the hard work they had been doing?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:50 PM
Apr 2019

Is he going to thank Fox for all of their hard work? I don't think so.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
15. Is that all it is, or has it done some good?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:49 PM
Apr 2019

How about getting out the vote. Is it effective at that?

I should have added to my original post, I don’t understand why target them as opposed to the real enemy.

But after reading your post, digging a little deeper on the org, and getting a more rounded picture, it becomes clear why the Bernie camp is targeting it: it is indeed effective at mobilizing people locally. It is effective at getting liberal ideas into the mainstream. And, the attack temporarily shifts the spotlight over Bernie.

It’s like children gathering around a schoolyard fight. The media will cover one liberal slugging another. That’s attention-grabbing. In this case, it was a cheap shot that inflamed more people than it attracted.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
19. They have been smearing Bernie and others.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:58 PM
Apr 2019

Who are they working for? Why are they in the circular firing squad Obama warned about?

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
23. The irony is lost on you. Bernie joined the circular firing squad with his letter...
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:07 PM
Apr 2019

and fundraising campaign that is using coverage of his broadside to bringing in contributions.

You don’t get to take a shot in the firing squad and then paint yourself as some kind of virtuous victim. It doesn’t work like that.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
25. Which Democratic candidate did Bernie attack?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:17 PM
Apr 2019
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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
16. Yes I've seen this already on Facebook, almost word for word...
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:51 PM
Apr 2019

1. Think Progress is an independent entity, editorial independent.
2. If CAP/ThinkProgress wants to criticize Bernie, so what? It's their right to do it, just as the Justice Dems critique everyone who doesn't like Bernie.

My opinion is that this is nothing but a fund-raising scheme targeting his base.
Those not in that group think it looks petty and oh so sensitive to criticism.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
21. I know what is behind Justice Democrats.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:04 PM
Apr 2019

They don't criticize people that don't like Bernie. They are targeting Democrats who vote with the gop. Who is CAP/TP representing? Are they just representing their donors?

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comradebillyboy

(10,149 posts)
26. Ah, the dreaded 'neoliberal' smear. Anyone who dares to criticize Saint Bernard
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:19 PM
Apr 2019

is labeled a neoliberal or a corporate Democrat or establishment something or other. Those terms have been so abused as to be devoid of meaning. And any criticism is dismissed without looking at its merit.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
27. Right, how many times Bernie says millionaire is such a critical issue to voters.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:25 PM
Apr 2019

Corporate shills just doing what their paid to do. What are the merits of their attacks on left leaning candidates?

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
28. Corporate shill? Drink!
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:32 PM
Apr 2019

Neoliberal? Drink!

A Bernie drinking game would get a person drunk in no time flat.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
32. Those are the merits?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:37 PM
Apr 2019

Good answer.

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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
35. I'm just showing you what it looks like to people outside of Bernie's orbit
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:48 PM
Apr 2019

We are reliable and progressive dem voters. Driving us away by attacking imperfect institutions is a short term strategy that will come back to haunt us in the general.

Buzzwords start to become ridiculous when they're the thrust of a post. If you think declaring something as neoliberal is somehow meaningful (a "merit," in your parlance), you are sadly mistaken.

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dogman

(6,073 posts)
38. So CAP/TP is your line in the sand?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:56 PM
Apr 2019

I'm sorry I just don't believe corporations are people too.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
40. And Strawman for the win...
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:17 PM
Apr 2019

combined with a false dilemma.

A twofer!

And CAP didn't write the piece - ThinkProgress did. But how could his campaign possibly trash ThinkProgress, of all orgs, as being non-progressive? WAIT.... CAP is connected to them!! They have no editorial say over what ThinkProgress writes, but it's a much better candidate for demonizing. Just scrub the glowing speech that he made at their conference last May, and send out the fundraising emails. No one will question Bernie when he says CAP, that CORPORATE SHILL!!! is behind this "attack," not progressive, pro-Bernie ThinkProgress.

But the internet never forgets.


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dogman

(6,073 posts)
45. Yes apparently CAP has distanced itself from TP.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:10 PM
Apr 2019


Showing a more positive approach.
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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
44. I have no idea what you're talking about with lines in the sand.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:23 PM
Apr 2019

If you call me out for something I did not say like you are attempting with this “line in the sand” jazz, I’m not going to bother with bantering with you.

Peace Out.

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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
41. I tune out the second I hear or see the word "neoliberal"
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:18 PM
Apr 2019

What does it even mean? I guess whatever those who throw the word around want it to mean.

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aidbo

(2,328 posts)
63. Or you can educate yourself to it's meaning. Then you can be the judge of..
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 04:44 PM
Apr 2019

..whether it is being used properly.

One definition from Britannica.com: https://www.britannica.com/topic/neoliberalism

Neoliberalism, ideology and policy model that emphasizes the value of free market competition. Although there is considerable debate as to the defining features of neoliberal thought and practice, it is most commonly associated with laissez-faire economics. In particular, neoliberalism is often characterized in terms of its belief in sustained economic growth as the means to achieve human progress, its confidence in free markets as the most-efficient allocation of resources, its emphasis on minimal state intervention in economic and social affairs, and its commitment to the freedom of trade and capital.


By the definition above, it has been the dominant ideology in the US for at least the last half-century so it might be something you want to familiarize yourself with.

Or just tune-out. It’s your choice.
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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
64. I'll just tune out
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:48 PM
Apr 2019

It's my choice.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
34. Corporate shills? What about people who praise them at their own conference?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:48 PM
Apr 2019
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dogman

(6,073 posts)
37. Were they attacking Democratic candidates then?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:51 PM
Apr 2019
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
39. They didn't write the Thinkprogress piece....
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:13 PM
Apr 2019

"ThinkProgress ― a website associated with though editorially independent from CAP ― as evidence of the think tank’s animosity toward him and other progressive candidates in the race."

I seriously doubt Bernie was going to have much credibility (or raise much $$ from progressives) going after ThinkProgress as "a corporate shill" so he had to point to.... CAP, who didn't say anything about him.

Do you think that Bernie's campaign took the transcript of his speech at their conference off his facebook page, so that his supporters might not find that he himself was at their conference praising them?

And what of Justice Democrats, who have been attacking Democrats all over the country now for awhile now? Doesn't that make them corporate shills?



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Politicub

(12,165 posts)
42. If CAP was an upstart with no history who starts attacking all dems,
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:18 PM
Apr 2019

then it would concern me.

But that’s not who they are. It’s an established organization that reliably supports dems. It doesn’t mean they’re perfect. It doesn’t mean they are evil for calling out dems that do not share in the organization’s mission.

I don’t have a purity test. People and organizations are imperfect.

And do you know what? There is room in the Democratic Party for people who hold left, center and moderate viewpoints. We don’t need a purity test. CAP doesn’t support Bernie. Who really cares other than people who bristle at any criticism?

The optics of what Bernie did are shit. Before someone says, “But, Politicub, Bernie is above optics because he says what he means. So unfiltered. Refreshing like a sip of water drawn from an artesian well in the springtime,” here’s what my response will be:

He better get to caring. We have an election to win. And to do that is going to take more than liberals at the voting booth. Our candidate needs to be adept at building a coalition. See Obama for an example of masterful coalition building. It was a winning strategy. Look to Stacey Abrams for another Democrat who is masterful at coalition building.

You see, I love being a Democrat. Our party is a crazy quilt sewn from all sorts of people. Diversity is our strength. It doesn’t mean I don’t get frustrated at moderates. I do at times. Purists can be a drag, too, but c’est la vie. We need all hands on deck to crush the GOP.

That’s why this broadside by Bernie is short-sighted. He needs their votes just as other candidates need the votes from people whose top choice didn’t make it through the primaries.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
33. So why did Bernie give a speech at their conference last May praising them?
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:46 PM
Apr 2019
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Gothmog

(145,275 posts)
14. This is coming from a Jill Stein supporter
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:46 PM
Apr 2019
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awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
31. Another Bernie or bust (trump?) supporter
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:34 PM
Apr 2019

Puzzling how these people keep getting hired by Bernie's campaign.

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Cha

(297,249 posts)
46. Oh yes.. nina turner.. the fixer. Jill Stein advocate..
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:56 PM
Apr 2019

You really "fixed" the shit out of that didn't you, nina?

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
47. Meh... I blocked her ass on Twitter for a reason
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 05:57 PM
Apr 2019
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Gothmog

(145,275 posts)
50. Washington Post-Opinion: Sanders's testiness will revive long-standing concerns
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:44 PM
Apr 2019



One of the “digs” on Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) in the 2016 presidential campaign was that he was all about himself — insufficiently attuned to concerns about unity, quick to lash out at critics and exceptionally thin-skinned. Those concerns surfaced again in Democratic ranks when he hired a rabid social media hit man, David Sirota (who hadn’t initially disclosed his affiliation with the Sanders camp).

Now he has gone into full attack-and-destroy mode, targeting in a vitriolic letter the Center for American Progress, a left-leaning think tank that has advanced, for example, a health-care plan that expands Medicare but is distinct from the Sanders Medicare-for-all plan, and CAP Action Fund, CAP’s political arm.....

What’s the reason for his letter? One can surmise it’s about “working the refs,” trying to intimidate others from criticizing his ideas or him. Sanders’s effort is downright bizarre, when you think about it. Imagine if Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) railed at the New York Times editorial page, demanding more praise, or if Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) demanded the Nation be more friendly. A Democratic veteran of many campaigns (not associated with CAP) observes, “This is disgracefully Trumpian, as Sanders desperately tries to create a fake controversy to change the subject on the eve of the release of his tax returns. … If he can’t take some accurate, fairly lighthearted ribbing from a progressive source, he’s proving that he’d be incapable of weathering the general election hurricane that Trump would unleash.”....

We already have a president who can’t take the rough and tumble of politics and wants to silence critics. I find it hard to imagine that Democrats want someone who might be just as touchy and intolerant of criticism.
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Cha

(297,249 posts)
54. We Don't.. BS is already Too Divisive.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 07:58 PM
Apr 2019

Thanks for the link, Goth


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Cha

(297,249 posts)
57. It's Perfect! I just saw your
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 08:21 PM
Apr 2019

post of Prof Tribe's Tweet on another thread.

Which I'm sure you've noticed by now.

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RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
60. Fuck Jill Stein
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 12:30 AM
Apr 2019

You hear that, Nina?

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