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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:54 PM Apr 2019

Pete Buttigieg is making Republicans nervous

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/15/pete-buttigieg-making-republicans-nervous-talker/3471428002/

The GOP seems bothered by Buttigieg
By Suzette Hackney

Well, it's official. Finally.
Indiana's homegrown millennial wunderkind Pete Buttigieg is running for president. And while I don't anticipate a cakewalk campaign for him, Buttigieg certainly has captured the attention of political pundits, the media and Democrats hungry for a fresh, formidable candidate willing to make a real run at the White House.

Buttigieg's meteoric rise in popularity and in the polls has also caught the attention of the GOP. I won't say the party is running scared — at least I won't say that yet. But if social media activity is any indication, Republican leaders are at a minimum bothered by Buttigieg.

Buttigieg is young, openly gay and confident that those traits will appeal to voters. He's an intelligent and affable guy, one whose attributes play well in this bitter political climate. His leadership style has repeatedly been described as visionary.

In other words, he could be a real political threat.
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Pete Buttigieg is making Republicans nervous (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 OP
I sure hope he's making them nervous! He makes ME happy. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2019 #1
I had tears in my eyes ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2019 #3
They know he isn't a flash in the pan. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #2
Realistically Sherman A1 Apr 2019 #4
I don't think he does PDittie Apr 2019 #5
Oh and I suppose you think Sanders does have a chance?nt helpisontheway Apr 2019 #6
That's an interesting conclusion. However, you do qualify it, by saying hat you simply THINK that. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #7
Has he released his tax returns yet? PDittie Apr 2019 #10
I didn't intend to accuse you of anything. Just asking for evidence. IndianaDave Apr 2019 #11
You sound like you hav as good a head on your shoulders as Pete. :) patricia92243 Apr 2019 #14
Wow! Thank you. Reading your comment is truly humbling IndianaDave Apr 2019 #16
Thanks for not accusing me of anything. PDittie Apr 2019 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author IndianaDave Apr 2019 #12
meh Celerity Apr 2019 #9
Seems like he's freaked out the evangelicals too. NCLefty Apr 2019 #8
They will not vote our side as long as they have their cult leader, so it patricia92243 Apr 2019 #13
And even that isn't necessarily true FreeState Apr 2019 #15
 

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,627 posts)
1. I sure hope he's making them nervous! He makes ME happy. n/t
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:57 PM
Apr 2019
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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
3. I had tears in my eyes ...
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:12 PM
Apr 2019

I had tears in my eyes when he and his husband kissed.

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WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
2. They know he isn't a flash in the pan.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:11 PM
Apr 2019

Even if he doesn't win the primary, he will be fighting them and strengthening the Democratic Party for decades.

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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. Realistically
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:30 PM
Apr 2019

pretty much everything makes Republicans nervous.

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PDittie

(8,322 posts)
5. I don't think he does
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:33 PM
Apr 2019

Realistically speaking, Mayor Pete has no shot at the nom, despite this surge of popularity lately.

He's a flash in the pan, nothing more.

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helpisontheway

(5,008 posts)
6. Oh and I suppose you think Sanders does have a chance?nt
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:36 PM
Apr 2019
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IndianaDave

(612 posts)
7. That's an interesting conclusion. However, you do qualify it, by saying hat you simply THINK that.
Mon Apr 15, 2019, 11:56 PM
Apr 2019

But I'm kind of amazed that you think he's merely "a flash in the pan, nothing more." If this is simply your opinion, that's acceptable. All of us are entitled to our opinions.

However, if you want to convince those of us who see impressively rising interest in Pete, and increasing support for his style of formulating, explaining and executing policies; dynamic growth in financial commitments, and his undeniable jump in multiple polls, what evidence do you have to draw such a conclusion?

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PDittie

(8,322 posts)
10. Has he released his tax returns yet?
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:33 AM
Apr 2019

Perhaps I missed them. (Several posts here have called that disqualifying.)

At any rate, and at risk of being accused of "slagging" ... this article gave me great pause about Mayor Pete, along with his lack of support for Medicare for All and the Green New Deal.

But more broadly, I simply don't think African American Democrats are going to vote for a gay white man whose only political experience is being a mayor. And they probably hold the key to this cycle's nomination, all things considered.

I appreciate your reasonable query.

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IndianaDave

(612 posts)
11. I didn't intend to accuse you of anything. Just asking for evidence.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:38 PM
Apr 2019

Pete has not yet released his tax returns. He has said that he will, soon. Why does that sound so familiar? You may have noticed that another candidate took a very long time to release his tax returns, after promising over and over that he would release them "soon." Anyhow, after Pete stated his intention to release them, he added, "I need to practice what I preach."

Pete was interviewed by Rachel Maddow last night, and clearly stated ( once again ) that he does support Medicare for All, followed by an explanation of his policy to implement it.

In regard to the Green New Deal, he has expressed repeatedly that our very security depends on aggressively utilizing every form of green energy, and to end our reliance on fossil fuels. In addition, he has stated that he -- and his generation -- are highly motivated to attack this problem now, because they will actually live with the consequences.

Finally, your speculation about Pete's acceptability to the African American Community is yet to be determined. I don't disagree that he probably starts out with a deficit among African Americans. But as they get to know him and learn to understand him, they may -- or may not -- decide to entrust him with the presidency. I don't think we can know this at this very early stage in the electoral process.

I don't think you have been following Pete as carefully as I have, and some of your assumptions are based on a lack of information. I don't blame you for that. Each of us tends to pay close attention to our chosen candidates, and we often hear under-developed or inaccurate information about other candidates.

I wish you and Bernie the best, and I would appreciate it if you don't dismiss Pete Buttigieg so quickly. Please give him a chance. I can assure you that if Bernie is the Democratic nominee, I will contribute to him, support him and vote for him enthusiastically. I would hope you could draw the same conclusion about Pete. -- Thanks -- Dave

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patricia92243

(12,597 posts)
14. You sound like you hav as good a head on your shoulders as Pete. :)
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:49 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IndianaDave

(612 posts)
16. Wow! Thank you. Reading your comment is truly humbling
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 08:08 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
17. Thanks for not accusing me of anything.
Wed Apr 17, 2019, 11:25 AM
Apr 2019

"I don't think you have been following Pete as carefully as I have, and some of your assumptions are based on a lack of information."





Buttigieg has said he believes the country should move “in the direction” of a Medicare for All system, but that private health insurance companies shouldn’t be eliminated.

In a CNN town hall earlier this month, Buttigieg endorsed what he called “Medicare for all who want it,” in which a Medicare-type public option would be made available “and you invite people to buy into it.”


https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/436162-medicare-for-all-where-2020-dems-stand

Buttigeig's response here seems to lack an understanding of HR676, the original legislation propsed by John Conyers, and Bernie Sanders' bill announced this week.


As with its previous iterations, Sanders' latest bill would establish a national, single-payer Medicare system with vastly expanded benefits. Sanders' plan would also prohibit private plans from competing with Medicare and would eliminate cost-sharing.


What Mayor Pete seems to be suggesting is the watered-down "Medicare for Americare" proposal. (I refer to it as "watered-down" because its purpose seems to be to protect insurance companies and their continuing operations, i.e. making a profit off of Americans illnesses, which I deem to be unacceptable.)


But many of the candidates — even official "Medicare-for-all" co-sponsors — are at the same time edging toward a more incremental approach, called "Medicare for America." ...

This movement to embrace a more incremental policy comes as politicians tread carefully over the political land mines a "Medicare-for-all" endorsement could unleash, while seeking to capitalize on voters' growing appetite for health overhaul.

During the 2018 midterm election campaigns, some congressional candidates talked about allowing younger people — anyone older than 55 — to join Medicare or allowing people younger than 65 to buy into it if they choose (what's come to be called the public option). Many candidates aren't eager to face the industry opposition a full-on Medicare expansion would surely trigger.


Looked on his website for clarification. Couldn't find issues or policies of any kind.



There also this:




Please don't stone -- or hide, or ignore -- the messenger.

I may or may not have been following Mayor Pete as closely as you. There's no way of comparing or knowing. But I can say with certainty that I don't agree that my opinions -- they aren't assumptions; that's your word, not mine -- of Mayor Pete are based on a lack of information.

YMMV.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Response to PDittie (Reply #10)

 

Celerity

(43,402 posts)
9. meh
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 12:23 AM
Apr 2019

I see you taking multiple potshots at other candidates.

The Biden Warren feud pushing was just grand

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128720778

same for the dont run Joe piece

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128740668


Maybe stick to posting pro Bernie thangs instead of slagging off actual Democrats.

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NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
8. Seems like he's freaked out the evangelicals too.
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 12:13 AM
Apr 2019

They're denouncing him crazy.

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patricia92243

(12,597 posts)
13. They will not vote our side as long as they have their cult leader, so it
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 05:47 PM
Apr 2019

really doesn't matter.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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FreeState

(10,572 posts)
15. And even that isn't necessarily true
Tue Apr 16, 2019, 06:21 PM
Apr 2019

My whole family is in a cult and are Republican die hards. All of them are interested in Pete and are likely to vote for anyone but Trump.

Pete helps moderates cross the line.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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