We're not going to get votes from the Westboro Baptist Church crowd?

TO HELL WITH THEM!

to cram your theology down our throats and force our children to listen to your anti-science and misogynistic lectures in our public schools.

WTF are they talking about?

disgustedly,
Bright

Go Pete Go!

And the MOST interesting thing should be what they do in theirs.

This is what I hate about LGBTQ Nation - they are an outrage stirring paper. They don't frame things correctly.

Bryan Fischer is an extremist to most right wing voters. He doesn't speak for the religious right any more than the Mormon prophet speaks for American Christians.

Just the usual faux outrage designed to gin up some contributions from the god-fearin' sheep out in the boondocks.

than nominating Mayor Pete. Nothing would make Trump happier.

If he gains the nomination it will no longer be unspoken.

by the same media outlets that were covering Trump non-stop. They also tried to turn Biden's innocent personal contact and hugs into something predatory while trying to minimize Beto. Biden and Beto are the only two I am fully confident can beat Trump. Democrats want to love and support Mayor Pete, in part because he happens to be gay and would be first gay candidate for president. Unfortunately that desire to be supportive may lead to some overlooking that the religious right already got their supreme court justice...they might not vote in as high numbers this time. Trump needs them to get out to vote, so propping up someone to rile them up plays right into his hand. I'm not in any way saying Pete isn't a good, smart, awesome person. I just think him as the nominee helps Trump. I don't want to help Trump.

I know people who work in PR. I can tell when someone has a good publicist, a well-planned media strategy, and has a personality the media can't resist.

Same considerations apply to Trump, but he has a different strategy.

Beto also has a good media strategy.

The media world looks very different when you know people whose sole mission is get their person in front of a camera.

in American culture, which many on here seem to conveniently ignore. People also tend to assume that Donald Trump will follow civilized rules and norms in a debate. (We already know that facts and logic mean nothing to him or his supporters.)

Not only can both men defeat Trump, but I also think they have coattails and perhaps could bring Democratic Senators, something I am not sure Buttigieg can do. I want to be proven wrong, but I don't trust this electorate, especially with the religious right ready for bear after his truthful remarks regarding them.

No f'ing way these people around here are voting for Pete.
"Buttigieg for President" yard signs in rural areas? Ain't happening. Everyone afraid the neighbors would think, "You're voting for sin? You don't believe in Jesus!"
If I hear, "Love the sinner, hate the sin" one more time from these assholes I'm gonna puke.

usual turnout among LGBT the way Obama did with black voters.

But those nearby Rust Belt states might.

...because nominating someone else will carry a bigger risk of defeat.

I understand that perspective. And at the same time, I think that particular brand of risk aversion isn’t the stuff from which inspiration springs. And Absent that inspiration, I can see a good likelihood for defeat.

If Trump wins re-election we may never get another one.

Republicans suppressing the vote and Russian attack on the election.

or that he could even if he were not gay. Aside from not believing he can win, I just think that Trump would prefer to run against him. I also have family members in the LGBTQ community that I worry about. I am all for having an LGBTQ nominee...just not against Trump. My God I shudder to think of the kind of hatred ramp up that we would see by the lunatic Trump cult members.

FUCK TRUMP, that fucker can bring in on

I will NEVER live in fear

that piece of dogshit can rally the troops of hate all he wants

he will lose

I have tried really hard to watch and listen to him. I don't dislike him at all. I just find him very difficult to pay attention to. I guess there isn't really a polite way to say it so I'll just say it. I find him to be boring. I had the same reaction to John Kerry and Al Gore. Both nice, smart guys and excellent candidates on paper but within 5 minutes of listening I was nodding off...and I WANTED to listen to him. So there's that. Keep in mind that I am an Independent that votes exclusively for Democrats at this point. Maybe that is allowing me to see something from a different perspective, I don't know. I also suspect that the media is pumping him up just to tear him apart, so I hope that those who like him so much be prepared for that. It's like a sport for the press.

if you think THIS

Link to tweet

I said I lose interest very quickly. I think much of it is because there is virtually no change in his voice when he talks.

may the best person to lead our nation forward win

And I will happily vote for Buttigieg should he be the nominee. I just can't take another 4 years of Trump.

But I don't trust many Americans in the electorate. Heck, as much as I like Stacey Abrams and would like to see her run for POTUS, I wonder if it might even be worth it to run for it let alone the Senate seat in Georgia.

IF Biden does not enter the race (almost zero chance of that) I do think Stacey will probably jump in though.

I do think Buttigieg can be a paradigm breaker in terms of shattering the rainbow ceiling, much like Obama was in terms of race. Gallup polls are tracking to hit around or over 80% by 2020 for acceptance of LGBTQ amongst voters. The vast, vast majority of that 20% against would vote against Jesus if he ran as a Democrat. Hell, in 2008, when President Obama won, it was only 55% and for gay marriage itself only 40% approval.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1651/gay-lesbian-rights.aspx

I think he's the only one that actually understands what is going on with Trump. Everyone thinks Trump is an idiot, but he's not. He's very ignorant and narcissistic, but that's different. Trump has spent his entire life studying one thing - how to manipulate media and he's become a world class expert.

Pete understands media too, and is himself an expert in media manipulation, which is how he was able to get so much attention in such a short amount of time. But he's not an ignoramus. He has studied the historical factors that brought Trump to power and the techniques for taking Trump down.

What makes you think he can't win?

Because I don't want to come across like I'm attacking him. I just want Democrats to beat Trump. That is my only motivation.

Everytime I try to listen to and watch him I lose interest very quickly. I don't find him all that engaging or charismatic and there is very little variation in his tone of voice. I wouldn't say straight up monotone, just kind of boring. As I just put in another reply I made it was the same reaction I had to John Kerry and Al Gore. He also comes across as really scripted to me and I just don't like that.

He is a nice guy, very smart and has a lot going for him. I think he would be a very good VP candidate and eventually president running against a different opponent...just not now and not Trump. There's just way too much at stake. I hope that clarifies better without coming off as being mean because that's not what I'm trying to do at all.

A mind like his would be a terrible thing to waste.

I find Pete interesting and Beto too animated with not enough substance. I don't mean to be critical either, he comes across very well, but Pwte's style works better for me.

If they were music, Pete would be a concerto and Beto a Jazz riff.

And the rest of it is just overall who I think is the best candidate. I love me some Joe Biden but I even think Beto is a better candidate than him. He is extremely appealing to people of color and it's showing in his crowds. That's crucial for winning.

They all have vulnerabilities that will be probed, exposed and fully exploited. We could run Jesus himself and they would crucify him again.

Pete's biggest advantage is that he can deflect attacks and change the conversation to substantive issues.

thread winna

FUCK THE HATERS

BOO!

Vs Buttigieg, Sanders, Biden, etc. I’m sure he’ll have no problem with the porn stars no matter the Democratic nominee.