I hope he will.

There's probably not much more the mayor can say about this.

Or would you get a hide for saying!?

I posted: Anything else useful to post? and then quoted from the article:

' Pete Buttigieg had been mayor just 13 weeks when he faced a leadership crisis. . .

“It felt stomach-churning,” Mr. Buttigieg recalled of the night of the 2012 protest, speaking in an interview. “To know that that same day, we were at what even then I understood was going to be the beginning of an incredibly painful and divisive moment of race relations in my city.”

At that time, Mr. Buttigieg said he removed his police chief because he had lost faith in him after discovering the F.B.I. was investigating him for secretly taping officers’ phone calls. The chief sued the city for racial discrimination over his firing and won $50,000 in 2013. Four white officers sued the city for invasion of privacy and defamation and won a $500,000 payout the same year. . .

In a political memoir released this year, Mr. Buttigieg wrote that the police tapes case “affected my relationship with the African-American community in particular for years to come.” . .

At issue in the police taping story are some of the most charged issues in municipal and national politics, including surveillance and personal privacy, government transparency and allegations of racism and unlawful behavior by the police.

Kareemah Fowler, the South Bend city clerk and a political ally of Mr. Buttigieg, said she believed the mayor had worked hard “trying to bridge the gap” between African-Americans and whites in the city.'

Everyone out there has SOMETHINg thats going to be used against them. I can think of at least ONE negative issue about the top 5 right now.

then it is a lot more than "a whole lot of nothing".

Anyone remember Freddie Gray? And a certain highly promising former Maryland governor and former Baltimore city mayor running for President? On reading the details, I felt it was deeply unfair to pin the police behavior in the Freddie Gray incident on O'Malley. But there was also zero doubt in my mind that it would be a severe handicap on his campaign. It wasn't the only reason his campaign didn't take off, but it would have been a difficult issue to overcome.

first I think the federal prosecutor is lying when he said they never make indictment decisions based on whether someone resigns or not. They clearly do so in cases of elected officials rather regularly. That doesn't mean they did so here, but to say they never do so is just plain wrong. I do think Mayor Pete has some explaining to do here. I think Boykin did deserve to be fired, even if the tapes were what he says they are, but if they are what Boykin says they are, then the 250k for those officers is a problem. He also should have found a black person to replace Boykin with if at all possible given the circumstances of the firing.

They would still get that settlement.
Its just like if a cop kicks in your door without a warrant and finds drugs; the search was illegal. If the Chief illegally recorded conversations, he was wrong & broke the law.

Boykin didn't order the recordings. So why should Boykin deserve a demotion?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/secret-tapes-racially-tinged-police-scandal-may-revive-difficult-time-n994871

but the other 7 weren't.

for illegal wiretapping at the time.

Boykins did resign, then took it back, at which point Buttigieg demoted him.


Boykins stayed on with the force and retired in 2017

Former South Bend Police Chief announces retirement from law enforcement
By Tom Franklin - July 8, 2017

https://www.953mnc.com/2017/07/08/former-south-bend-police-chief-announces-retirement-law-enforcement/




The chief continued to record the officers AFTER he accidentally found out that they were being taped (this started before Pete was mayor).

Also, the tapes have not been released because a Federal judge ruled in 2015 they were illegal wiretapping. That was appealed and kicked back to a state court, where it stands now.


Judge Rules Some South Bend Police Department Recordings Violated Wiretap Act

http://southbendvoice.com/2015/01/14/judge-rules-some-south-bend-police-department-recordings-violated-wiretap-act/





https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/17/politics/pete-buttigieg-south-bend-tapes/index.html

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I laid out the facts with backing links. We shall see what happens with the tapes, but Buttigieg was absolutely right to not release them, especially after a federal judge ruled them illegal wiretapping. It would have opened up the city to millions more in potential lawsuits.

The chief was no angel in all this either. He continued to illegally tape the cops for a year or more after discovering the system, told no one, then went after them. He settled for a pittance (75K) whilst the other cops got half a million.

judge said the tapes were illegal, it was appealed and kicked to a state court) St. Joseph County Superior Court Judge Steven Hostetler, is a RW Republican who was a finalist for Pence to place on the Indiana Supreme Court. Pence also placed him there on the bench in the first place. Every ruling so far has said the tapes were illegal wiretapping and should be destroyed (except for the federal appeals case, which just kicked it back to the state courts.)

He has a lot of political motivation to try and shit stir this whole thing.


St. Joseph County Judge Steven Hostetler a finalist for Supreme Court

https://www.southbendtribune.com/news/local/st-joseph-county-judge-steven-hostetler-a-finalist-for-supreme/article_d874219e-7f1e-5d47-b3d6-e5f02984399c.html

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — St. Joseph Superior Court Judge Steven L. Hostetler is among three finalists recommended to Gov. Mike Pence to fill an upcoming vacancy on the state's Supreme Court.



also

https://ballotpedia.org/Steven_L._Hostetler

Steven L. Hostetler is a judge for the Superior Court of St. Joseph County, Indiana. He was appointed to the court by Governor Mike Pence to fill the vacancy created by the retirement of former judge Michael P. Scopelitis. Hostetler assumed office on June 6, 2013.

This shit has been posted 3 times already and the guy he fired committed a federal crime.

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It's from the New York Times which is usually a reputable source.

The story's out there. If it's fake Pete needs to set the record straight or call for a retraction.

On edit: This story is still on the front page of MSN this morning. Whether true or only partially factual it has legs.

"He will need greater and broader support, especially in the black community"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/buttigieg-has-been-the-surprise-of-the-democratic-field-where-does-he-go-next/2019/04/20/560485e6-62e1-11e9-bfad-36a7eb36cb60_story.html

I'm guessing a lot of it is from the same troll who keeps signing up.

here is the troll's confession and promise to keep doing it

they pick a different primary choice (or none) almost every time, trying to engender blowback onto that candidate too

I think they have made dozens of socks

from what I see they are mainly going after Buttigieg

If the court system ran juries like they do here, the jails would be overflowing.

even tho I did see some of these before they were hidden (I think.)

The other person doesn’t fit the narrative. I’ve read a considerable amount about this and there are serious conspiracy theories and a lot of stories based off of the words of two people who took part in what seems to be an illegal act. After an FBI investigation, Buttigieg made the decision to fire two people and go no further. He opens the city up to serious lawsuits if he arbitrarily releases the tapes. Tapes that were questionably obtained by employees of the city.

Please read more about this than what is bein put out there. Almost none of the stories we seen written today even mention the second person who was fired.