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demmiblue

(36,860 posts)
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:07 PM Apr 2019

Elizabeth Warren: The World Needs Fewer Cersei Lannisters (spoiler alert)

I watch Game of Thrones because, just like everyone else, I want to find out who lives, who dies, and who ends up on the spiky iron chair in King’s Landing. But for me, the hit HBO show is about more than a death count (I’ll leave that to Arya). It’s about the women.

Daenerys “Stormborn” Targaryen has been my favorite from the first moment she walked through fire. Despite being the daughter of the Mad King and the last rightful Targaryen heir to the Iron Throne (until this week), Dany didn’t grow up in the lavish palace walls of the Red Keep. She was born during the chaos of her father’s overthrow, in the last great civil war between the rich and powerful family houses. Dany grew up in exile, wandering the so-called Free Cities of the East — many of which weren’t free at all but propped up by slave markets to serve their masters. When we meet Dany in season one, she’s a teenager sold off by her abusive elder brother to beefcake warlord Khal Drogo in order to further his political ambitions. Dany might be a princess by birth, but she wasn’t dealt an easy hand.

Dany believes fiercely in her right to rule, but she despises what ruling means in the world she’s grown up in. She doesn’t want to be a slave owner or a dictator — and she definitely doesn’t want to become her murderous father. She tells Ser Jorah: “Slavery is real. I can end it. I will end it. And I will end those behind it.” Before sailing across the sea to Westeros, she frees the enslaved people of Meereen and creates an army that fights because they want to, not because they have to. (Also, she has dragons.)

In the season-eight premiere, our Khaleesi finally arrives at Winterfell with Jon Snow and her army of the Unsullied to “save the North,” not conquer it. She states her mission clearly in season seven: “I’m not here to murder. All I want to destroy is the wheel that has rolled over everyone both rich and poor, to the benefit of no one but the Cersei Lannisters of the world.” And as much as Dany wants to take on her family’s enemies and take back the Iron Throne, she knows that she must first fight the army of the dead that threatens all mankind. This is a revolutionary idea, in Westeros or anywhere else. A queen who declares that she doesn’t serve the interests of the rich and powerful? A ruler who doesn’t want to control the political system but to break the system as it is known? It’s no wonder that the people she meets in Westeros are skeptical. Skeptical, because they’ve seen another kind of woman on the Iron Throne: the villain we love to hate, Queen Cersei of Casterly Rock.

https://www.thecut.com/2019/04/elizabeth-warren-review-game-of-thrones-season-8.html
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Elizabeth Warren: The World Needs Fewer Cersei Lannisters (spoiler alert) (Original Post) demmiblue Apr 2019 OP
Just one more reason to vote for Elizabeth Warren... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #1
:) So basically we have a noble, "unsullied" populist movement Hortensis Apr 2019 #2
It beats tRump rooting for the White Walkers... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #3
Lol. Not sure he isn't theirs, Hortensis Apr 2019 #4
 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
1. Just one more reason to vote for Elizabeth Warren...
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:14 PM
Apr 2019

Nice analysis...

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Hortensis

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2. :) So basically we have a noble, "unsullied" populist movement
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:19 PM
Apr 2019

determined to destroy the elites? Gee, where'd they get that theme in this dangerous era, anyway?

Sounds like the destruction definitely had to be. But what are Dany's plans for a post-destruction world and how well developed and detailed are they? Are they going to establish a democracy similar to ours, has she sworn neither she nor any of her cadre will use their power to fill the offices, and when will the first elections be held?

I'm with Elizabeth in wanting fewer Cerseis, but the thought of Danys in today's world make me nervous as hell also. They don't usually turn out to be what people need, or even what they once thought they would be. We got very lucky. Washington had to refuse requests to become our first dictator, and he did. He was our first president but guarded and established the limitations of the office that government by the people required.

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PeeJ52

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3. It beats tRump rooting for the White Walkers...
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 06:53 PM
Apr 2019
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Lol. Not sure he isn't theirs,
Sun Apr 21, 2019, 08:14 PM
Apr 2019

Surrounded by wights.

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