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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 02:19 PM Apr 2019

I think Mayor Pete, Sanders, & Biden are all going to drop in the polls as time goes on.

No big deal to me if I'm wrong. I'll wholeheartedly support whoever wins because I like all three of them as well as almost all of the rest of the 2020 pool. I don't like Gilibrand, but I'll be 100% behind her if she wins the nomination. Okay enough for my disclaimer, lol.

Anyway, I think one of the main reasons why Mayor Pete and Bernie Sanders are polling so much higher at this time than some of the other announced candidates is because the television media and so many talk shows have awarded them with most of their air time and most of their hype so far. I also think the media is the reason why Biden is polling so high even though he hasn't even announced yet. Most of what we have been hearing so far from the TV media is Bernie, Mayor Pete, and Biden Biden Biden.

Sure, Bernie has been one of the most progressive voices out there, but as the primaries move along, I think his routine is going to become a little stale. I think the Democratic voters will eventually choose someone who grabs us with a fresh new voice, as long as that person is just as tough on Trump as Bernie has been.

Mayor Pete is incredibly intelligent and kind. He impresses the heck out of me whenever he speaks, but I have to wonder if he might come off as being so much of a scholastic that his words could go right over the tops of the heads of all those people who aren't very cerebral, and that's about half of American voters nowadays. Also, he is so kind that I think that some voters might feel that he won't match up well, one on one, with the big bad bully in a general election.

Joe Biden? I have always loved Joe, but I think the people who are most interested in voting in the Democratic Primary are people who are looking for someone who hasn't been so embedded in Washington politics for as long as Joe Biden has.

I very much like what all three of those folks have to say, but I just think some of the other candidates are going to start polling much higher once the media gives them the same fair amount of attention as what they have been giving to Bernie Sanders, Mayor Pete, and Joe Biden over the last couple of months. It already seems to me that the media is trying to pick the candidates for us again. I would rather that every Democratic candidate gets equal time so we can give them all the equal consideration they deserve.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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I think Mayor Pete, Sanders, & Biden are all going to drop in the polls as time goes on. (Original Post) mtnsnake Apr 2019 OP
Buttigieg has chosen to appear on every show possible Renew Deal Apr 2019 #1
exactly leftofcool Apr 2019 #2
I think the way he's rolling out policy will keep him at the top longer too FreeState Apr 2019 #18
Dems fall in love easily BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #3
Bernie's routine is already a little stale. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #4
Excellent analysis, and I agree that EW might pick up some of the numbers that Bernie stands to lose mtnsnake Apr 2019 #5
Yeah, Bernie's stale... riiiiiight!! That's why he's a frontrunner for the Democratic nomination!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #8
So, what's he got that Warren and Harris don't have? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #15
I consider Bernie and Elizabeth pretty much as equals... as I've said MANY times, I could see EITHER InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #17
I agree with this Awsi Dooger Apr 2019 #6
Yes, Mayor Pete has grabbed the spotlight away from Kamala... Beto never really had it. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #10
Biden for sure is going to drop, as has been his history, while Bernie only rises in the polls InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #7
Do to name recognition I don't see Biden nor Bernie dropping much if any. I think their numbers yaesu Apr 2019 #9
Yes, everyone seems to forget name recognition. It s HUGE factor in any election. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #11
Absolutely, name recognition will be a big part of it Butterflylady Apr 2019 #13
YES!!!! Most people pay little attention to any of this until real votes start. oldsoftie Apr 2019 #14
Hope Pete stays relevant.I expect he will, as he really does seem to have the It Factor, like Obama. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #12
Disagree except for Sanders. ananda Apr 2019 #16
 

Renew Deal

(81,869 posts)
1. Buttigieg has chosen to appear on every show possible
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 02:31 PM
Apr 2019

The others haven't, especially Beto. This was Trump's strategy and it worked in 2016. So far it's working for Buttigieg as well. We may be having a conversation a year from now lamenting that XYZ "better" candidate didn't win and that Pete unfairly got more air time. And the answer will be that he showed up and others didn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

FreeState

(10,575 posts)
18. I think the way he's rolling out policy will keep him at the top longer too
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 04:15 PM
Apr 2019

I think the way he's rolling out policy will keep him at the top longer too. Rather than dump it all he has an actual communication plan around revealing his policy statements. Imagine that, a democrat using marketing in their policy strategy... it's about time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,439 posts)
3. Dems fall in love easily
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 02:33 PM
Apr 2019

And we fall out of love just as easily. I still see a lot of potential for volatility.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,816 posts)
4. Bernie's routine is already a little stale.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 02:36 PM
Apr 2019

He comes across as an angry old man yelling at the millionaires and billionaires to get off his lawn. Since Elizabeth Warren offers much the same message but with more specifics, more warmth and less shouting, she might pick up some of the numbers he loses. I think Biden will do well. Trump was the anti-establishment candidate who wanted to burn it all down, and that's what he's done, but he also brought chaos, disruption, incivility and general awfulness. Biden's years of experience, as well as his warm demeanor and obvious decency, might offer a much-needed sense of stability and all-around goodness which could attract a lot of voters. I'm not sure about Buttigieg. I like him a lot, but he might eventually be hurt by his relative youth and lack of experience. He will have to be able to make up for that in other ways, without being too wonky.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
5. Excellent analysis, and I agree that EW might pick up some of the numbers that Bernie stands to lose
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 02:41 PM
Apr 2019

for exactly the reasons you stated. She is up there at the top of my handful of favorites right now, although I want to hear much more from the rest of the pack.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
8. Yeah, Bernie's stale... riiiiiight!! That's why he's a frontrunner for the Democratic nomination!!
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:09 PM
Apr 2019

Hopefully, Bernie will keep getting staler and staler til he runs away with the nomination and goes on to defeat pee-Resident tRump!!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,816 posts)
15. So, what's he got that Warren and Harris don't have?
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:36 PM
Apr 2019

Besides the obvious...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
17. I consider Bernie and Elizabeth pretty much as equals... as I've said MANY times, I could see EITHER
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:48 PM
Apr 2019

one of them heading the ticket... just want to see them both on it!! The jury is still out with me on Kamala... a few things excite me about her candidacy, and a few things give me pause, so, I'm waiting to hear more from her. Did like most of what I heard at last night's townhall.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
6. I agree with this
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:01 PM
Apr 2019

Democrats love to overreact to whatever is in the news. It has always fascinated me because I assumed it would be the other way.

Kamala Harris jumped in early and was the darling. There were assertions here that it was inevitable. Now I don't see those posters, other than some of them have switched to Pete because now he is gobbling up the airtime and attention. I guess now he is inevitable.

I'm just going to stick to a wide scope view that we're not going to nominate someone in his 70s, we're not going to nominate a gay man in 2019, and we're not going to surrender several percent margin for error by nominating a female from a coastal liberal state.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
10. Yes, Mayor Pete has grabbed the spotlight away from Kamala... Beto never really had it.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:13 PM
Apr 2019

I could see Kamala making a come back though, given her last townhall performance and the policy positions she's taken that align more and more with Bernie's. IMHO, Pete is going to have to start getting more specific regarding where he stands on certain issues to remain competitive, but, I like what I've heard so far.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
7. Biden for sure is going to drop, as has been his history, while Bernie only rises in the polls
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:05 PM
Apr 2019

and Mayor Pete, he's too fresh a face to know for sure, though I see him going up with Bernie... and Elizabeth as well. It's those three, Bernie, Pete & Elizabeth, who will be there at the end, probably along with Kamala.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
9. Do to name recognition I don't see Biden nor Bernie dropping much if any. I think their numbers
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:09 PM
Apr 2019

may go up. Pete may keep his momentum as the new, fresh candidate much like Obama did.

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oldsoftie

(12,584 posts)
11. Yes, everyone seems to forget name recognition. It s HUGE factor in any election.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:15 PM
Apr 2019

And one reason incumbents have an upper hand.

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Butterflylady

(3,547 posts)
13. Absolutely, name recognition will be a big part of it
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:24 PM
Apr 2019

As I have said time after time, most of America does not pay attention like we do, so name recognition will play a big part.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

oldsoftie

(12,584 posts)
14. YES!!!! Most people pay little attention to any of this until real votes start.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:27 PM
Apr 2019

and even THEN, many dont make up their minds until only a few weeks before the general election!
We're just used to talking about it here all day, every day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
12. Hope Pete stays relevant.I expect he will, as he really does seem to have the It Factor, like Obama.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:23 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ananda

(28,873 posts)
16. Disagree except for Sanders.
Tue Apr 23, 2019, 03:39 PM
Apr 2019

i think both Biden and Mayor Pete will do fine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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