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with the NY press in 2016. It doesn't speak well of his work ethic.

It's a biological fact.

In 2016, after a quarter century in congress, he, stunningly, revealed he didn't know how he would use government to implement his dreams. What'd he do all those years, with a highly skilled and expensive professional staff to help him develop understanding? Just daydream in between haranguing his colleagues for not agreeing with his undeveloped ideas and doing whatever he needed to get reelected?

Looking back at his first 20 years of abandoned efforts at many different lines of work, none of them steady jobs that required him to produce, I smiled and liked someone taking all that time in poverty to "find" himself and that turning out to be in a United States senator -- the American Dream in action. I really should have wondered if that might still be part of who he is, especially after I came to suspect he was one of the many at high levels whose only big talent is for self aggrandizement.

May I suggest the subject line:

"Sanders: It's something I have not studied, honestly, the legal implications of that. ... "

would go out of her way to stick a fork in Sanders days after the fact.

Anyone who watches this can see it’s just another intentional hit piece by Joy Reid — and the poster.

BS wasn't prepared to answer the questions from the WOC.. and he got Booed.

After #SheThePeople BS sends Nina out to scold the WOC audience @ a predominantly white crowd rally.. escalating the Division.

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her just as she was hammering home inconvenient truths.

Reid was much more considerate of the other two guests.

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thing IF he had only been prepared.

The BUCK stop with him.. he and campaign manager.. had no clue how to answer the questions.

We don't want a candidate like that.

Nina was hammering home "inconvenient truths" and Joy didn't like it.

Link worked fine for me.

with no interview, if you click on it a second time, it goes to the MSNBC site but I still didn't see that video in the selection.

P.S. I just found it and am viewing it now.

P.S.S. I just counted it and Joy gave Nina all of 7 to 8 seconds before Reid interrupted her the first time.

I'm getting sleepy and will come back and view the rest tomorrow morning.

Peace to you sheshe.

Wow. 7 or 8 seconds. Turner was rude and talked over (ranted) for far longer than that. The two men on the panel with Nina were not rude at all and did not talk over the host. Fact is the host is the moderator on every news cast. They only have so much time for their segments and need to give equal time to all participants. No one person is allowed to negate their voices by talking longer than allowed. Seems to me that Joy Reid was reclaiming their time to speak.


Night night~

going back to 2015 shows it, divisive and deserves it.

She may be biased but show me one story where she was not truthful.

Biases are truthful as far as a person being genuine. Objectivity is truthful only when it is actually objective, I.e., lacking in bias. There is no question Joy has been biased against Sanders for a while now, since he had the gall to actually challenge HR

but they set those aside to make rulings according to the law.

So do journalists. Your attack on Joy Reid smells of desperation at how poorly Nina Turner did about how poorly Bernie did.

You are making this about Joy, when in fact it should be about the conversation in the time stamp that George provided.

Nina Turner was part of the panel. As his campaign manager she was ill prepared and was not able to answer why black women should support BS. I seriously think he needs a new manager, She is doing him no favors.

was specifically aimed at denigrating Sanders. She didn’t report on the She the People forum — she reported on Sanders’ performance in that forum.

As for Nina Turner, I agree. She was ill prepared. The whole thing was a gotcha episode. She should have been prepared for that just based on experience.

Joy harbors a grudge against Sanders and it clearly shows. It’s all based on the notion that Sanders caused our loss in 2016 which totally and conveniently misses the forest for the trees. It’s not us, it’s him! ... Well, we don’t have to vote for Sanders and most won’t. I’m pretty sure I won’t unless a few candidates have bowed out by the Oregon primary. But doing everything we can to divide and alienate people who adhere to many of his views is just plain foolish.

She spoke about Harris and Warren as well.

The segment you are talking about had more to do about Turner and her poor defense of Sanders. That was not Sanders fault, it was hers. She is not a great spokesperson.

it was a clear attack on Sanders continued via going after his surrogate. She went immediately after Nina after showing the clip and pointing out how miserably Bernie failed. Nina is and was incidental.

They didn't chain Nina Turner to their interview table this morning, she willingly appeared.

swiping at Bernie at every opportunity. You can’t defend her in my eyes.

Re: Nina. Of course she did. Just like Bernie did with She the People despite knowing Joy was one of the moderators and did/does with Faux News and any other forum. Sanders doesn’t shy away from adversity and is always consistent and genuine — which is why many like him. He doesn’t mince words.

at "She the people" and instead went into his tired stump speech.

support BS. How hard is that?

Your deflection isn't working.

antagonism toward the Democratic Party dishonestly and disastrously onto the national stage during a national election. He received plenty of quiet evaluation and either liking or indifference before he fully earned what comes to those who helped throw our nation to what the Republicans have become.

Including fear, because it looks like he might be able to do it all over again.

From the perspective of many obviously, Sanders simply countered the establishment’s offensive. The antagonism was already present and coming from the what was otherwise the same side.

There’s plenty of blame to go around for “throwing” our country to what the Rs have become as you day. Pinning it on Sanders is folly.

We each have our own perspectives.

do you imagine Sanders might say he's considering suing over the primary voting season, claiming they stole the primary elections from him? Any guess? Less than a dozen? One? Two?

Hey, just realized. We could have some fun at this. It could be a running bet over the primary voting season, only maybe using more specific numbers. 5, 11, 18, 31, etc.

Remembering past behaviors, that opens up lots of possibilities. We could bet on how many threatened lawsuits were actually filed. And on how many of those lawsuits would be dropped after the press moved on and before the discovery phase required the campaign to present evidence.

We could see if anyone would like to bet that a Sanders suit against one of our state parties actually proceeded to court. And if it did, on the outcome.

What do you think? We'd have to agree on some rules, of course. When asked by an expectant press if he intended to sue again, a "we're considering it," with a grim sigh and pursed-lip head sake in sorrowful anger over it happening yet again, would constitute a threat, but I'm thinking just the sigh etc would just be an accusation of further massive corruption to confirm his loyalists's suspicions and provide justification for anger.

for not being able to answer the questions.. and so does Nina Turner.

The WOC@#SheThePeople booed BS because he was asked a vital question.. and he tried to use his "I marched with MLK" to avoid answering about what he'd do to "fight white supremacists".

The boos started when he couldn't explain how he'll appeal to black women.

The BS team should have put their energy into figuring out how to win a room full of black women Before he came to #SheThePeople

It was too important for them to sit passively by while he droned on about what he did 56 years ago, when the question was an important one for the here and now.

Then he sends Nina Turner to go out there to escalate it instead of addressing the problem.

erupt.

in the abc/WaPo poll.

Sorry!

What a surprise!

and insinuate guilt by association on top of it.

I see though that Biden's fundraiser has to get thrown in off-topic again. Thanks!

his non answers at #SheThePeople.

All he had to do was come prepared, and this wouldn't be happening.

I’m glad Joy discussed the issue.

Sid

McConnell also attended Dr. King's "I have a dream" speech, same as Senator Sanders. Living at such a seminal time and doing no more than Mitch the turtle isn't something to be proud of.

When Selma happened, Senator Sanders was travelling in Europe, and he didn't bother voting for the ground-breaking 1962 and 1964 Congresses, which voted in the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act respectively. His protest while at the University of Chicago was for co-ed private housing off-campus - the University of Chicago desegregated in 1870, and was among the very first universities in the US to admit African Americans and women.

In other words, Senator Sanders' record on civil rights is not exactly stellar, but it isn't completely awful either. He did endorse Rev. Jesse Jackson's runs for President, and considering how the Senator has a consistent tradition of not endorsing anyone, that does show some effort. However, he hasn't introduced any legislation that is specifically aimed at African Americans, not even after his lack of policies aimed at their circumstances was amply demonstrated to him a couple of years ago. He has not been at the forefront concerning the issue of bail, or African American maternal risk, or anything else.

Nina blew it.

Did not watch from the 28:30 mark. It was the panel and in particular Nina Turner and her attempt to defend Bernies non answer to the question he was asked at the #SheThePeople event.



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@ninaturner is a PERFECT example of what’s wrong w/ @SenSanders campaign. She can’t speak to why women of color should vote for him, because there is no reason. She answered Joy’s question the same way he answers their question at #SheThePeople2020... she didn’t. #AMJoy #Reiders

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Turner is his campaign manager and came ill prepared to the panel discussion. She also should have better prepared BS for his appearance as well. Isn't that part of her job?

instead of reflecting on why BS and Nina can't answer the questions about, "Why WOC should support Bernie Sanders?", are doing their candidate no favors, she.

They're only digging a deeper hole. How hard is it to just answer the questions?

BS even wagged his finger at them.. It's Unreal!

I have watched this several times. I wasn't wrong.

Bad messaging and completely tone deaf, Cha. They are not off to a good start.

pass is only making it worse for BS.

If he thinks he can continue to get away with this.. he'll only keep avoiding questions he can't answer or doesn't like.

That's Not who the Democratic Party needs for a candidate.

I want someone who answers the hard questions straight up.

to a white audience and saying what he thinks white people want to hear about civil rights.

Bernie ha 3-4 stock answers for everything. Racism, Black women - not included in those. He shouldn't have gone there.