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I just copy/pasted the published headlines. Headlines can be deceiving! It's an interesting discussion. Check it out! Applies to all candidates.

In fact, from what I read here, defeating Trump is THE #1 goal. Personally, I'd hope that goes with the best policy

It's all going to come down to Super Tuesday for him, again. It's where he pretty much lost it in 2016.

If Super Tuesday coalesces around a single (or two) candidates, it could very well be the deciding factor this time too. It should certainly winnow the field, if it hasn't happened already.

Identity politics may be coming back to bite itself in the bum. With the out sized media emphasis on this paradigm, I don't think the 'scandals' will end with Booker's private school and pharma coziness (neither of which benefit 'his' community) or Harris' social justice record (which might account for her performance out of the gate). Look what 'super predators' did to Clinton.

On a slightly different note, if Biden runs, are we going to heap up on 'old white men'?

It's a dangerous purity test that can be turned on just about anyone.

I agree with you on Super Tuesday though. It will winnow the field.

This is identity politics, but it's a form of purity and purity tests are the stock-in-trade for "real progressives" around here.

Identity politics talks about purity tests based on accidents of birth. Real progressives talked about purity tests based on policy.
I believe policy affects race/religion/sexual orientation
I believe race/religion/sexual orientation chooses policy that supports them.

What's going on seems to be an alignment against progressives based largely on media smears and untruths (ie. throwing of chairs) and carefully selected media shots (rally pics).

Very little of the criticism to date has been about policy. Although I see that changing a bit. Now they just use blanket 'socialism' as the boogie man instead of 'rainbows and unicorns' - which, because of the general shift in platforms of candidates running, is no longer a viable weapon, or they'd have to dump on the whole party.

Check out his FB feeds. On Twitter you will also see a lot of positivity and respect by POC depending on who you follow.

There are some great material on vetting sanders. There are a great nember of posters who love Congressman John Lewis. I trust my sources.

I can see sanders doing poorly in southern primaries. Time will tell.

In Texas, Beto and Biden will both do very well. Warren and Beto will take a great deal of the limited support that sanders had in Texas. Again, I can see sanders not breaking 15% in a large number of districtts in Texas and not getting any delegates in these disticts

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Impressed with BS and his trump voter outreach.

They're not really impressed with BS at all.

Some African American groups are really having fun with bernie and his attempts to reach out to non-bernie bros. I seriously doubt that sanders will be able to expand his base beyond the bernie bros

primaried in 2012. We don't forget.

BS is being VETTED this TIME.

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I don’t have Facebook or twitter. Thanks in advance

people like that coming voting for the Dem . Just like some the republicans who voted for Obama and later voted Trump because of Hillary will be voting against Trump. Trumps policies and stupidity has impacted a lot of people.

government contractors who got hosed on their taxes and the government shutdown too this year . They are not too happy. Sometimes karma is sweet.

the 2016 General election. I just don't see Hillary voters ( general election voters including me) voting for him in a primary. All of us would vote for him in a general election but not a primary. Also, I just don't believe he can win a general. He will be painted as a big spending socialist...I just don't see it happening. I want someone who can win a primary but more importantly a general election. And I want a Democratic president. Sen. Sander is an independent running in a Democratic primary which is problematic for me and I believe many others.

I am n some ptivate National Delegates pages that are active as well as a number of other twitter streams

creates an impression that he is the victim of mean Democrats. I have not seen such behavior thus far so maybe it won't happen...hope it doesn't.

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He was done after Super Tuesday in 2016, and I think that'll be true again in 2020. Or, he'll be done after New Hampshire if he doesn't win there.

Congressman John Lewis may well come up in these primaries

In 2016, Sanders was *the* alternative to Clinton, who many had been conditioned to hate. He won't have that luxury in 2020. And I don't see him doing considerably better among POC and non-millennial women.

Many still haven't accepted the reality that Sanders was done after Super Tuesday in 2016. Some seem to think that one must be mathematically eliminated in order to be considered done.

reggae band they hired for one of the rallies.

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at this point.

Any Democratic Party Candidate BUT BS.

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This research identifies 5 types of Trump voters. Two are ripe for the picking.

The Five Types of Trump Voters

Key Findings

This analysis finds five unique clusters of Trump voters: American Preservationists (20%), Staunch Conservatives (31%), Anti-Elites (19%), Free Marketeers (25%), and the Disengaged (5%)

There is no such thing as “one kind of Trump voter” who voted for him for one single reason. Many voted with enthusiasm for Trump while others held their noses and voted against Hillary Clinton.

Trump voters hold very different views on a wide variety of issues including immigration, race, American identity, moral traditionalism, trade, and economics.

Four issues distinguish Trump voters from non-Trump voters: attitudes toward Hillary Clinton, evaluations of the economy, views about illegal immigration, and views about Muslim immigration.

I think the groups called Anti-Elites and Disengaged can be won over by the right candidate.

And then you'd have to convince the PUMA wing of the party to hold their noses this time.

The anti-elites and the disengaged (but voted) amount to about a quarter of Trump's support in 2016. That's 15 million votes or so.

But, hell, there's room at the party for everybody: C'mon, non-voters, join the fun!

If he chases after Trump voters, he can forget about getting a serious black vote. Because the only way to get Trump voters is to convince them that we don't matter.