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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:20 PM Apr 2019

In Biden's launch Video, He Did Something No Other Candidate Did

He went directly to what the main problem is right now - Donald J. Trump. He skipped talking about individual issues because, in this upcoming election, there is one issue that rises above all the others and is the most immediate - Donald J. Trump.

Joe Biden is about replacing Donald J. Trump as President. He'll get to the other stuff very shortly, but he has identified the primary issue facing the United States at this time - Donald J. Trump.

He pulled no punches, called Trump out, and pledged to beat him, defeat him, and correct all of the harm Trump has done.

What other issue is as important in 2020?

Joe Biden will address all of the other issues soon. You'll hear about his plans. You'll hear about his accomplishments, too. But, he will continue to remind us what the overriding issue for 2020 is - Donald J. Trump.

Nobody else has made that issue their top priority. I'm listening to the man who has identified the central concern that faces the United States of America - Donald J. Trump.

VOTE HIM OUT!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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In Biden's launch Video, He Did Something No Other Candidate Did (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2019 OP
How so? He is after those same peop;e everyone caters too WWC Dams call them robbedvoter Apr 2019 #1
???????? EarnestPutz Apr 2019 #3
I'm sorry, but I can't make any sense of what you wrote. MineralMan Apr 2019 #4
wtf ? stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #21
There's plenty of time to discuss issues when the real primary campaign begins. Right now... George II Apr 2019 #2
What date does the real primary campaign start? Demit Apr 2019 #5
Sometime in the Fall of 2019. MineralMan Apr 2019 #10
All those other issues PatSeg Apr 2019 #28
Important as removing Trump is, removing him can't be our main issue. marylandblue Apr 2019 #6
Tell me which issues are more important that beating Trump? MineralMan Apr 2019 #8
Taking back the Senate Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #14
Here's the deal. If we can bring out hordes of Democratic voters MineralMan Apr 2019 #16
I totally agree. Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #17
I agree with the impeachment thing, but MineralMan Apr 2019 #20
If they don't impeach, Mr.Bill Apr 2019 #23
I'm not sure that would happen. MineralMan Apr 2019 #24
Defeating Trump is everyone's goal. Does it really need to be said? marylandblue Apr 2019 #26
Right on. Prosper Apr 2019 #13
I've said the same thing....but we also have to make the point that Trump is a cancer Buckeyeblue Apr 2019 #29
I think Trump is a symptom of a cancer in the nation's soul. marylandblue Apr 2019 #32
You might be right. But either way we can't ignore it. Buckeyeblue Apr 2019 #33
The single biggest threat to the United States is the president of the United States calguy Apr 2019 #7
Just imagine four more years of Trump! MineralMan Apr 2019 #9
Absolutely right! Butterflylady Apr 2019 #11
Joe brought us the most innovative announcement. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #12
What will he beat Trump with? Prosper Apr 2019 #15
I'm sorry, but Bernie Sanders fluffed an important opportunity to MineralMan Apr 2019 #18
Joe's experience and reputation around the world will beat Dump LakeArenal Apr 2019 #19
Here's the problem. It can't be all about Trump because he's just part of the problem. Autumn Apr 2019 #22
About whose enablers? MineralMan Apr 2019 #25
Unfortunately there are about 51 heads on that snake in just ONE branch. No one can possibly Autumn Apr 2019 #27
if trump does not run ? delisen Apr 2019 #30
That would be great. Do you think we should count on that? MineralMan Apr 2019 #31
I think we should be prepared for it delisen Apr 2019 #35
we'll see how that plays with the *all republicans are complacent* crowd. trump is a Kurt V. Apr 2019 #34
Joe Biden knows it's not about candidates, it's not about issues ... Snake Plissken Apr 2019 #36
 

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
1. How so? He is after those same peop;e everyone caters too WWC Dams call them
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:22 PM
Apr 2019

MAGAts. All ignoring us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. I'm sorry, but I can't make any sense of what you wrote.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:24 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. There's plenty of time to discuss issues when the real primary campaign begins. Right now...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:23 PM
Apr 2019

....the important things to do are go after trump and support and bolster the Democratic Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
5. What date does the real primary campaign start?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:30 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. Sometime in the Fall of 2019.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:40 PM
Apr 2019

Right now, we're just doing announcements and posturing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,486 posts)
28. All those other issues
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:09 PM
Apr 2019

won't mean anything if we don't get rid of Trump and take back the senate. We desperately need a 2nd Blue Wave throughout the country. Then we will see change.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
6. Important as removing Trump is, removing him can't be our main issue.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:33 PM
Apr 2019

People voted for him for a reason. Too many people. It's too many people whether Clinton was robbed or not, whether the Russians made a difference or not, whether they were ignoramuses or not. Too many people dissatisfied with the direction of the country in 2016, who are still dissatisfied today.

My view is that the current system is not working for them. It wasn't working, so they voted to blow it up. If we don't lead with a solution, if we act like Trump is our biggest problem, who's to say they won't vote to blow it up some more?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
8. Tell me which issues are more important that beating Trump?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:38 PM
Apr 2019

Please. A lot of people are sorry they voted for Donald J. Trump. We can get their votes.

A lot of people have been hurt badly by Trump. We can get their votes.

Right now, the election is the main issue. Who can win? Who can beat Donald Trump? All of the candidates are Democrats, more or less. All will support the Democratic platform and more. But which one can beat Donald Trump and is identifying that as a major problem in this country.

Biden will get to all those other issues. But, he identified the primary goal of this election very clearly in his opening video. Nobody else has done anything like that. He'll tell you his positions on the important issues, starting this week. But, he already told you what his goal is. Is that not our immediate goal, too?

Biden is directly on point!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
14. Taking back the Senate
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:46 PM
Apr 2019

is a damn close second. The Supreme Court will be lost to us for generations if we don't. Any Democratic President will not be able to appoint anyone with the current Senate leadership. Cabinet appointments will also be difficult.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. Here's the deal. If we can bring out hordes of Democratic voters
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:50 PM
Apr 2019

to vote for President, we will take back the Senate. Turnout will be everything in 2020.

We can regain control of the Senate, increase our majority in the House, and elect a Democratic President all at the same time. How many voters turn out will make the difference.

We need a Democratic Nominee who has broad appeal and who will bring people out of their homes to make sure that Donald Trump gets no more time in the White House.

I think Joe Biden is the one who can do that the very best. That's why I'm supporting him. I can't see any of the other candidates having as broad an appeal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
17. I totally agree.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:52 PM
Apr 2019

And I think an impeachment that forces republican Senators to vote to not remove Trump from office will be great for voter turnout on our side.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
20. I agree with the impeachment thing, but
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:58 PM
Apr 2019

I don't think it's going to happen.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Mr.Bill

(24,300 posts)
23. If they don't impeach,
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:02 PM
Apr 2019

I worry that many Democrats will just throw their hands up and wonder why they should even bother to vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
24. I'm not sure that would happen.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:22 PM
Apr 2019

Enough people are concerned enough about Trump to ensure a large turnout, I think, either way. Of course, if Democrats are fighting with each other about the nomination, that won't help.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
26. Defeating Trump is everyone's goal. Does it really need to be said?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:49 PM
Apr 2019

Did we need we need to say our goal was to defeat Romney/McCain/Bush/Dole... I know, I know this time is different. But the difference I see is different from what you see. You see...a fluke perhaps? Trump happened to win, he sucks, so let's just get him out and clean things ups, then we'll be back on track.

But I don't see that at all. Trump is a symptom not the disease. Our goal should be to treat the disease not the symptom. Treating symptoms does nothing. Treating the disease resolves the symptoms.

Biden Identified the symptom, but we all already knew that. I want a doctor who can treat the disease.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Prosper

(761 posts)
13. Right on.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:43 PM
Apr 2019

Beating Trump requires a plan to get the votes. So far he has fallen short and pointing out and promising to work on them is the answer. Attacking him without presenting the solution guarantees four more for Trump. He can and will spin any attack. The votes he can lose are the ones he got from "Lots of good paying jobs" and "Make America Great Again".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
29. I've said the same thing....but we also have to make the point that Trump is a cancer
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:20 PM
Apr 2019

That must be eradicated.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
32. I think Trump is a symptom of a cancer in the nation's soul.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:37 PM
Apr 2019

Not the cancer itself.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
33. You might be right. But either way we can't ignore it.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:47 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calguy

(5,313 posts)
7. The single biggest threat to the United States is the president of the United States
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:34 PM
Apr 2019

Until that threat is removed, nothing else matters. Biden is our best shot to get that done. I believe Joe Biden is a man whose time has come.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Just imagine four more years of Trump!
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:39 PM
Apr 2019

I'll vote in my primary election for the Democratic candidate who is the most likely to beat him in November 2020. Yes, indeed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Butterflylady

(3,544 posts)
11. Absolutely right!
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:41 PM
Apr 2019

He is the main issue, 4 more years of this moron there will no longer be a country, let alone any issues. Will be living under a wannabe Putin. Freedom will be out the window along with healthcare, a living wage, environmental health, social security, Medicare and whatever else there is to be concerned about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
12. Joe brought us the most innovative announcement.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:41 PM
Apr 2019

Once I thought issues are the most important. Now realize issues come after saving the world from Dumpism.

After that all things might be possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Prosper

(761 posts)
15. What will he beat Trump with?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:49 PM
Apr 2019

A desire to beat Trump is shared by everybody running. But it is going to take driving home issues in a positive way to beat Trump. Living wage and health care and education are what Trump promised and failed in. Those can beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. I'm sorry, but Bernie Sanders fluffed an important opportunity to
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:56 PM
Apr 2019

get black women on his side. It should have been a no-brainer, but he just punted and missed his opportunity.

Bernie has strong appeal to some voters, but not to a broad spectrum of voters. I believe he will not even come close to being the Democratic nominee. He might win a primary or two, but no more than that, I think. I'm not seeing him as the nominee at all.

Of course it's a long way to the first primary and caucus and then on to Super Tuesday. We'll know how Bernie does when those happen, won't we?

I think he came as close as he ever will in 2016. This election, I think he drops out during the primaries, or goes third party. He does have several Green Party folks high on his staff, so he might end up doing that. I sure hope not...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,819 posts)
19. Joe's experience and reputation around the world will beat Dump
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 03:56 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,102 posts)
22. Here's the problem. It can't be all about Trump because he's just part of the problem.
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:01 PM
Apr 2019

What's Biden going to do about all his enablers?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. About whose enablers?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:29 PM
Apr 2019

I didn't say it was "all about Trump." I said that was the most immediate and crucial issue in 2020. Then I said that he'd be talking about issues shortly, like starting tomorrow. His launch, though, was about defeating Trump. He's the only one I know of who has made that an important issue.

Cut off the head of the snake, and you can forget about its body.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Autumn

(45,102 posts)
27. Unfortunately there are about 51 heads on that snake in just ONE branch. No one can possibly
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 04:51 PM
Apr 2019

believe that in our field of 20 Democratic candidates that he's the only one who has made defeating Trump an issue. Trumps enablers must be gone after too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

delisen

(6,044 posts)
30. if trump does not run ?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:20 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
31. That would be great. Do you think we should count on that?
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 05:26 PM
Apr 2019

I don't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

delisen

(6,044 posts)
35. I think we should be prepared for it
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 06:18 PM
Apr 2019

Are you counting on Trump being the the Republican candidate?


We were not prepared for push back in 2010 after passage of the ACA.

2010 cost us re-apportionment and we were gerrymandered all over the country.

We lost over 1000 Democratic seats in a relatively short period of time.

We were not prepared for Russian involvement in 2016-most voters had no inkling of what was occurring.

It is still occurring and most candidates are not even factoring it in; in fact some operatives are even discounting it- I think in an attempt to Fram the situation in the way most favorable to their desired candidate.

It is 8 months before the first primary season vote 10 months to Super Tuesday primary vote.
Russia and Republican Party are not likely to back a sure loser-as so many are projecting Trump to be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
34. we'll see how that plays with the *all republicans are complacent* crowd. trump is a
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 06:17 PM
Apr 2019

symtom of a bigger problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
36. Joe Biden knows it's not about candidates, it's not about issues ...
Sun Apr 28, 2019, 06:18 PM
Apr 2019

It's about getting Trump out of the White House and into a prison cell.

Nothing else matters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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