Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumprimary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)It is the same segment where Jason Johnson called BS the "Forrest Gump of the civil rights routine."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)You are correct
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)And it was obvious that Turner was right
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)Nina came off poorly. AMJOY heard Nina and understood how weak Ninas answers were
You do know that AMJOY was the moderator of the She The People event
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
robbedvoter
(28,290 posts)Perfection!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Atticus
(15,124 posts)or Sarah Huckabee-Sanders insofar as her integrity is concerned.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brush
(53,871 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Is troubling. She is very divisive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,690 posts)for her then Nina didn't vote.. she stayed home and pouted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)NT
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Maybe you've seen video of them together at the Peoples Convention. It wasnt a Jill Stein rally.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)"It's true," Turner said when asked whether presumptive Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein had asked her to become her running mate. "Talking with my family. There's nothing to tell at this point."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/31/sanders-surrogate-weighing-green-party-run-for-vice-president/
https://www.insidesources.com/nina-turner-coming-new-hampshire/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Considering running for VP and saying No isnt an endorsement.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)That's a reach...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr Tibbs
(539 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)of her accumulated anti-Dem rhetoric?
On another note, I'm surprised a Sander supporter would post this video of the Kyle Kulinksi show. Kulinski is a co-founder of Justice Democrats and a YELLER. Unless you're in the Bernie bubble, he's not a good 'representative' for the Sanders campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)The issues of black women in the US in 2019 compared to the Holocaust?
The raid on Michael Cohen's office compared to government surveillance of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King?
I think the looks of the men on either side of her on the screen while she was speaking pretty much tells the story.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,690 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassler
(3,390 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)I actually watched this interview and turner did very poorly in the real world
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....were almost universally negative. I can't understand how that guy could go on for seventeen minutes claiming that she "dismantled anti-bernie nonsense". That simply didn't happen.
FYI, here's the full, unedited video, the segment starts about 26:40
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)Nina's citing of fact based polls aka; reality, turned Joy's narrative, "why can't Bernie connect with women of color?" on to its head.
It was too much inconvenient truth for Joy to handle.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)...."don't forget Sanders' father came to the US at 17 years old to escape the Holocaust". No one could see the correlation between the issues of black women in the US and Sanders' father escaping the Holocaust.
What was really telling was the looks on the faces of the Marcus Farrell and Jason Johnson throughout the time Turner was speaking, and the catchphrase that Johnson threw out part way through.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,923 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,196 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Nina was awesome!! Bernie is lucky to have her on the team... she's SUCH an asset!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)That performance of her scolding the audience for not praising Bernie was cringeworthy
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,239 posts)during SHE THE PEOPLE and that Nina did about as bad as Bernie did during the msnbs segment.
For their answers they both got "cat calls and jeers" as Joy put it,
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I get it... sacred cows chained to those goalposts need to move around more.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)What are you speaking of?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
highplainsdem
(49,041 posts)number of people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,690 posts)did BS no favors with her not being able to answer the question about what he would do to help WOC.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Kellyanne is focused and articulate in her lying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,376 posts)She does them no favors...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BootinUp
(47,188 posts)The holocaust.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomSlick
(11,109 posts)If Sen. Sanders wants the Democratic nomination, he should surround himself with Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,690 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)The people he chooses to represent him don't instill confidence in his judgment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)Nina has outstanding oratory skills!
I love watching her speak.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Pop, indeed, Mr. Travolta.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)one helluva great job himself!!
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!+
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Again, it wasnt exactly a defense of Cohen, but for Turner, that was beside the point.
https://lawandcrime.com/politics/americans-should-be-concerned-about-cohen-fbi-raid-going-too-far-says-fmr-dem-lawmaker/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)observations, call it constructive criticism..but Joy was right. WHY was Bernie not better prepared KNOWING he is going to this she the people thing? WHY? Turner acknowledges right away he did not articulate shit like he should of and he didn't.
Why did he not prepare? Oh maybe he doesn't have to since he is so got damn great.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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RandySF
(59,237 posts)Civil rights activist and former Ohio state senator Nina Turner said Sunday on CNNs State of the Union that Americans should have some concern about how the FBI is running its probe into Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.
It wasnt the most enthusiastic defense of Cohen, but worth pointing out since Turner is a Democrat and a Bernie Sanders ally. Host Jake Tapper asked her about what she thought about the FBIs raid on Cohen last Monday. She said it concerned her a little and it remained to be seen if there were any abuses, but, she added, certainly, throughout the history of this country, especially where it comes to African-American folks, I mean, Black Panthers, Dr. King, Malcolm X, and other civil rights freedom fighters. You can see that sometimes the government can go too far in its effort and be skewed one way.
https://lawandcrime.com/politics/americans-should-be-concerned-about-cohen-fbi-raid-going-too-far-says-fmr-dem-lawmaker/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sarabelle
(453 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,690 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,409 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,175 posts)for those who don't recall:
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/08/10/message-failure-from-nina-turner-and-our-revolution/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,409 posts)help Bernie gain any ground. She's the last one who should be calling out folks for being "pompous".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)That was some really poor promotion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)Bernie made a big mistake hiring her for his campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)(snip)
In late 2017[21] and again in April 2018, a Twitter user @Jamie_maz[22] reproduced posts written between 2007 and 2009 on Reid's former blog "Reid Report" which, as The Nation described it, "us[ed] the trope of gay sex to mock politicians and journalists."[23] Following criticism, Reid apologized, calling the posts "insensitive, tone deaf and dumb."[24] After reviewing more posts from her old blog, which she said she did not remember making, Reid asked lawyers to investigate if her blog or its archives might have been hacked,[22] though Wayback Machine, where the posts had been found, said it detected no evidence of hacking in the archived versions of her site.[22] The second batch of posts prompted LGBT advocacy group PFLAG to rescind its plan to give Reid an award,[25] and The Daily Beast to suspend future columns from her.[26] Reid opened the April 28, 2018, edition of AM Joy with an apology.[27] Response to her apology was divided along party lines.[28]
In April 2018, blog posts from 2005 through 2007 were brought to public attention. According to the Washington Post, Reid encouraged her readers to watch the now-debunked 9/11 conspiracy film Loose Change and appeared to promote the forcible relocation of Jews from Israel to Europe.[29] Another controversial post, this one from 2007, used a photoshopped image of Senator John McCain superimposed on the body of 2007 Virginia Tech University gunman.[30] In June 2018, Reid formally apologized, saying she had evolved in the years since she wrote the posts: "Im a better person today than I was over a decade ago. There are things I deeply regret and am embarrassed by, things I would have said differently and issues where my position has changed. Today Im sincerely apologizing again."[4] The MSNBC network expressed its continued support, saying in a statement that some of the blog posts were "obviously hateful and hurtful", but that they were "not reflective of the colleague and friend we have known at MSNBC for the past seven years"[4] and that "Joy has apologized publicly and privately and said she has grown and evolved in the many years since, and we know this to be true."[29]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Reid
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honest.abe
(8,685 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thirties Child
(543 posts)I'm not ageist -- I'm 84 -- think 79 at inauguration is too old. Right now I'd go for Warren/Buttigrieg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)Consider posting your comments as it's own OP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawg day
(7,947 posts)Everytime I hear Elizabeth Warren speak, I like her more. She's really really smart, has great policies, and yet talks so warmly and clearly. No lecturing, just a conversation-- even in a speech.
And Mayor PB, well, I don't think I want such a young president, but in 2028? If I'm still around, he's got my vote.
And the combination of the two-- that would have to be the highest IQ of a presidential candidacy ever.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarc
(10,476 posts)as a positive for the Bern.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,923 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)with a straight face?
The woman is awful. She should be on a show with diamond and silk, Candace owens and Tomi Lahren. They're all just as RePuLsIvE.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,650 posts)Joy conveniently ignored that Sanders got a very warm, and perhaps the most enthusiastic welcome of any of the candidates when introduced at She the People. She has it in for him and used her show to torch him and push the narrative that hes out of touch with AAs and women. Its just a part of the overall narrative that establishment, Third Wayer, Centrist Dems push about liberals and progressives generally; that liberal/progressives cant win because they lack voter support so they should get out of the way, fall in line and shut up or else ... the evil Rs will win. Its one big bamboozle that they consistently try to pull over on the average, not highly informed voter.
The guy in this broadcast is right. They are the ones who are out of touch and disaffected.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)was that Bernie couldn't connect with women of color tying it to 2016. When Nina cited evidence of Bernie's strength in the polls, endorsements and how his policies positively affected African Americans in general and women specifically it was conveniently ignored.
Joy gave Nina all of 8-9 seconds before her 1st interruption, same as happened to Bernie at She the People during a televised audience when he was heckled by a few or some (who knows) and it morphed into including all women of color.
Nina put forth some inconvenient truths and Joy couldn't handle it, she was much more respectful of her other two guests.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,650 posts)and better than I.
These attacks on Sanders are having their intended affect. His poll numbers have declined in the past couple days. Though part of that is due to Biden going live.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)"These attacks on Sanders are having their intended affect. His poll numbers have declined in the past couple days. Though part of that is due to Biden going live."
but I also believe the primaries will be a marathon and Bernie was a long distance runner.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)and his numbers have gone up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Sanderss finger wag and Turners talk suggest the Sanders campaign may continue to struggle to draw in voters of color.
By focusing on a 50-year-old anecdote, Sanders missed a key opportunity to explain what hes done for women of color in the past 10 years and how hed tackle todays challenges. And when listeners expressed their frustration, Sanders seemed dismissive and unwilling to engage. The optics of a predominantly white crowd applauding Turner for chastising women of color only fueled this message more....
In this campaign, Sanders has an opportunity to do better with minority voters. Pushing back on voters who express concern is not likely to win Sanders more support from constituencies he needs to capture the Democratic nomination.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pamdb
(1,332 posts)Can't stand Nina Turner and rapidly beginning, in spit of voting for him in the michigan primary , to really dislike
Bernie. A lot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nuggets
(525 posts)She does no such thing. She dances around the issue and laughably says Sanders has articulated specific policies directed toward WoC and then repeats his campaign platform which is basically just what the Democratic Partys platform for decades with no realistic plan of implementing.
If someone wants to argue that Sanders has provided specific policies to help WoC please post them now. Because Nina Turner repeating campaign generalizations doesnt cut it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)5200+ thumbs up to 102 thumbs down but your opinion is noted.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Your over the top cheerleading is not just noted but a welcome comic relief.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nuggets
(525 posts)thumbs up and thumbs down mean what?
That any troll could vote?
Thumbs somehow transfer to votes?
Didnt the Sanders supporters lean the last time they bragged about popularity and rally size and then he lost by an astounding 3 million votes?
Still waiting for you or any Sanders supporters to give specific examples of Sanders policies that benefit WoC.
I guess you have none which is why you posted the popularity and your opinion doesnt count implication in an attempt to divert.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)with 5,500+ thumbs up and 113 thumbs down.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)6,300+ thumbs up and 146 thumbs down.
I believe Bernie is connecting to women of color despite Joy's false narrative.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Opus, Bloom County
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,424 posts)if 5, 10 15, 20 (who knows how many actual hecklers) scream purple in an event with well over a 1000 attendees that believe the color is green and the hostess of the event says purple rules, that's foolish at best.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,567 posts)Nina was very very weak in this interview
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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