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How to lose the dog lover vote. And goats too.
ebbie15644
(1,216 posts)Dog trainer on you tube he's very good. Kristie of course is a piece of 💩
stopdiggin
(11,396 posts)And I understand that this may be extremely offensive to certain readers - and probably beyond understanding or belief for some.
But - in many rural cultures - putting down an animal that needs it is considered a responsibility, and plain old upstanding responsible behavior. This happens for a variety of reasons where an animal is crippled, diseased, suffering advanced old age, injured, deformed at birth - and the list goes on, to sometimes including an animal that is just performing poorly, nonproductive, or a nuisance and detriment to the operation. And many farm people would never consider that this is something that ought to be passed on to a third party or vet - but something that needs to be faced and taken on themselves. In other words a dirty and unpleasant job, but one that goes with the territory. A responsibility coming with ownership and husbandry.
(remember I said some people are going to find this difficult to understand ..)
Further - the behavior described here for this young dog - would absolutely have this animal on a short list as clearly deserving of being 'put down', in almost any rural/agrarian community. (completely uncontrollable, hysterical temperament, unheeding of any commands - and then finally, as absolute capital offense, wanton destruction of livestock ...) In rural culture, this animal's life expectancy is approximately the length of time that it takes for the owner to be informed of what has taken place. And, no - you do not pass the problem along by 'rehoming' the animal - nor would you, or any responsible breeder, under any circumstance consider allowing them to reproduce. The animal is clearly a 'cull' - as far as both functionality and social acceptance, as well as protection of the breed. And, again - that is really on you.
So - bang away on Krist Noem if you like. I certainly don't have any use for the woman, and no wish to protect or provide cover. But do understand, I hope - that this story is most likely not being received in South Dakota (or IA, NE, MT or ID ..) - with the kind of ridicule and disdain that you might assume. A lot of constituents in rural American are saying something more like, "Well, yeah .." ('chicken killin' dog' ..)
to train any animal takes time and patience.
I know culling is advisable in some cases but
no evidence of that here.
1. you don't let an intact buck run loose
2. 14 month old pups are still maturing
and as a responsible dog owner, you don't let
the dog run loose on someone else's farm especially when
the dog is lacking training, human laziness and ignorance.
[i live on a farm too]
PortTack
(32,813 posts)stopdiggin
(11,396 posts)kills, not just one but multiple, chickens?
Nope. And nope again.
You can try to 'train' this animal if you want to ...
(while 'explaining' it to your neighbor)
And like I said - don't really know (or care) how complicit Noem might be in this situation.
But a lot of rural people are saying, "Screw that!" "Chicken killin' dog - means goodnight rover .."
et tu
(932 posts)no responsible owner would let it run loose
you should know that living on a farm~
stopdiggin
(11,396 posts)propensity for murdering chickens. Until he murdered a whole batch of 'em.
(I think the articles said something about 'escaping' from a vehicle they had been traveling in - whatever the heck that means)
But, returning to my point - a lot of people are going to look at this story - and not see the resulting action taken by the owner as a brand of unconscionable cruelty and savagery - but rather a responsible resolution to a proven 'problem' animal.
And, yeah - a lot of other people, like for instance here on DU - don't see it as anything of the sort. But that is why I wrote the post. And prefaced it with saying, "some of you aren't going to like hearing this .."
IronLionZion
(45,600 posts)plenty of Americans adopt dogs that someone else doesn't want, regardless of rural or urban or whatever behavior problems it may have.
stopdiggin
(11,396 posts)But, as I tried to point out - that might not necessarily be seen as the ethical or 'stand up' way of dealing with things - by people that have a little different framework.
et tu
(932 posts)than all your dogs! lol
a true dog lover~