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In reply to the discussion: White Nationalist group claims responsibility [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)9. What is illegal about training someone to shoot?
"If he has connection to that group, wouldn't you look there next?"
Look for what?
Yeah, sure, they are going over all of the shooter's communications. So, give me a hypothetical which provides probable cause that this "group" or any member of it did something illegal, sufficient to issue a search warrant, and let me know what you want to search for.
Here, I'll start...
Okay, so they find an email between him and someone in the group (however you want to define membership, as if they had dues or something), and in which someone says "Hey, you're good with a gun. You should think about shooting up your school sometime."
And... what of it? You think that's illegal?
Running around the woods in their playclothes with their guns, and talking about how much they want to provoke a racial shooting match, as these groups do - is not illegal.
Again, what gets me about these "report warning signs" and "nobody did anything with a mentally disturbed person" is that it seems there is a whole lot more interest in pre-emptively thinking about locking up potentially dangerous people - and the civil liberties issues that would entail - and DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THE READY AVAILABILITY OF GUNS CAPABLE OF SUSTAINED REPEATING FIRE.
There's this fairy tale that people want to believe that goes, "Oh, if only we'd been more vigilant, suspicious, and more readily locked up people who engage in behavior we don't like, then this wouldn't have happened." It's pure nonsense.
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Murderer who trained with a paramilitary hate group isn't a reason to investigate whether
FSogol
Feb 2018
#7
Ok, I repect your view. Let's say he detailed his plans to the group via email. Even that wouldn't
FSogol
Feb 2018
#11
Heard it here yesterday, but see no actual reporting on it. According to huffpost, that group might
FSogol
Feb 2018
#37
Ok, I'll go rob one later this morning. Do you want progress updates or just keep it quiet like
FSogol
Feb 2018
#36
I'm sorry but I have to ask this. Are you purposely playing dense? Of course that group...
brush
Feb 2018
#31
I think he took offense with me saying "seize their computers" when I should have said investigate
FSogol
Feb 2018
#34
You'd have go into their computers and that won't be done in their homes or offices so...
brush
Feb 2018
#40
The authorities have the shooter's phone and computer. That'll show if there is a trail
FSogol
Feb 2018
#41