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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
47. So?
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:44 PM
Feb 2018

I had read one of the versions of this story, did not note the order of who contacted whom, and you corrected that point. Yes, it is "still not what I posted" because I posted that yesterday before you pointed out that I had a misimpression about why this guy was talking to the ADL, because why this guy would be speaking to them at all struck me as odd.

Silly me for reading the ADL's own website when I saw the OP:

https://www.adl.org/blog/florida-white-supremacist-group-admits-ties-to-alleged-parkland-school-shooter-nikolas-cruz

A spokesperson for the white supremacist group Republic of Florida (ROF) claimed to the Anti-Defamation League on Thursday, February 15, that Nikolas Cruz, the man charged with the previous day’s deadly shooting spree at a Parkland, Florida, high school, was associated with his group.

...

After self-described ROF members claimed on the discussion forum 4chan that Cruz had also been a member, the Anti-Defamation League spoke with an ROF member who identified himself as Jordan Jereb.


Now, apart from the newer "update" posted in that story, which is the one I read yesterday, it said, and still says, "After self-described ROF members claimed on the discussion forum 4chan that Cruz had also been a member, the Anti-Defamation League spoke with an ROF member who identified himself as Jordan Jereb." It really doesn't specify who called whom, and from the end of the sentence, it struck me as a person called them and "identified himself as Jordan Jereb" rather than something along the lines of "we sought out Jordan Jereb and spoke to him".

Today, the SPLC says that Jereb's been trying to get himself listed as a hate group proprietor on their website for some time. Since condemnation by the SPLC and ADL is a "badge of honor" with these people, it really didn't strike me as odd that I had read the ADL's ambiguous wording to mean that he called them. The way I had read what the ADL wrote is along the lines of Jereb having posted on 4chan and also having contacted the ADL because he wanted publicity.

By starting out with this guy "claimed to" the ADL... I took it as he contacted them to claim that. It also struck me as perhaps a twisted prank on someone's part to tell the ADL something and get the ADL to bring attention to them for whatever sick purpose the perpetrator had in mind.

But, you know what, it's still not going to be "what I posted". It's going to remain "what I posted" even after having realized that the ADL's "after this, then that" sentence didn't mean what I had first interpreted it to mean.

Oh well.

Hope law enforcement goes and seizes their computers. n/t FSogol Feb 2018 #1
For what? jberryhill Feb 2018 #4
Murderer who trained with a paramilitary hate group isn't a reason to investigate whether FSogol Feb 2018 #7
What is illegal about training someone to shoot? jberryhill Feb 2018 #9
Ok, I repect your view. Let's say he detailed his plans to the group via email. Even that wouldn't FSogol Feb 2018 #11
If I send you the plans of my crime jberryhill Feb 2018 #13
I agree that removing access to guns is the key, but staying FSogol Feb 2018 #17
Because Nichols was an active member of a conspiracy mythology Feb 2018 #21
Material aid jberryhill Feb 2018 #23
Didnt this group supply him with a gun? N/t FSogol Feb 2018 #33
Where did you see that? jberryhill Feb 2018 #35
Heard it here yesterday, but see no actual reporting on it. According to huffpost, that group might FSogol Feb 2018 #37
Ok, I'll go rob one later this morning. Do you want progress updates or just keep it quiet like FSogol Feb 2018 #36
Let me know how the bank robbery turns out jberryhill Feb 2018 #38
LOL, Now you're encouraging kidnapping too? Lawyers! FSogol Feb 2018 #39
I'm sorry but I have to ask this. Are you purposely playing dense? Of course that group... brush Feb 2018 #31
I think he took offense with me saying "seize their computers" when I should have said investigate FSogol Feb 2018 #34
You'd have go into their computers and that won't be done in their homes or offices so... brush Feb 2018 #40
The authorities have the shooter's phone and computer. That'll show if there is a trail FSogol Feb 2018 #41
Investigated further, right. Like who else is in their incubator for terror strikes. brush Feb 2018 #42
There is a double standard. n/t FSogol Feb 2018 #43
Sorry, I am not buying it genxlib Feb 2018 #12
What assistance does this plan require? jberryhill Feb 2018 #14
You can deflect all you want but it doesn't change the facts genxlib Feb 2018 #15
Deflect jberryhill Feb 2018 #16
I don't disagree genxlib Feb 2018 #19
See maxrandb Feb 2018 #2
trump allied group takes reaponsibility and proud of it AlexSFCA Feb 2018 #3
Please correct your headline... brooklynite Feb 2018 #5
I would disagree angrychair Feb 2018 #8
Can you explain this jberryhill Feb 2018 #26
Not sure if ADL stated who they were angrychair Feb 2018 #32
It's weird. They freely admitted he was a member GusBob Feb 2018 #10
And they went to the ADL to tell them jberryhill Feb 2018 #25
No, they didn't. Behind the Aegis Feb 2018 #29
The ADL followed up a "lead" posted on 4chan jberryhill Feb 2018 #44
And yet...still not what you posted. Behind the Aegis Feb 2018 #46
So? jberryhill Feb 2018 #47
So? Behind the Aegis Feb 2018 #49
Steve Miller? Bannon? Trump? IluvPitties Feb 2018 #6
what makes them different from ISIS? spanone Feb 2018 #18
Mostly just the number of adherents and organizational skills in my opinion. mythology Feb 2018 #22
What's the deal, I just saw this Puzzledtraveller Feb 2018 #20
Heres what I dont get jberryhill Feb 2018 #24
The ADL made contact, not the other way around. n/t Behind the Aegis Feb 2018 #30
Yes, it seems that has been clarified relative to what I had read yesterday jberryhill Feb 2018 #48
I DON'T LIKE MISLEADING HEADLINES Beakybird Feb 2018 #27
SPLC says no confirmation shooter linked to white nationalist hate group. greyl Feb 2018 #28
Fake news! Initech Feb 2018 #45
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