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Squinch

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Mon Mar 19, 2018, 12:28 PM Mar 2018

Seems like many Facebook users here are sure they are too smart to have been manipulated by CA. [View all]

They are certain only the weak-minded would fall for manipulations like those perpetrated by Cambridge Analytica. They think all talk of boycotting FB for allowing those manipulations is silly.

Here are two things to consider if you are one of those Facebook users who thinks you could not possibly be manipulated:

First, have you ever bought anything as a result of an ad or an infomercial? Have you ever really wanted a snack after watching a food commercial? Do you have any brand loyalties on household products or food items? Did you select your car or truck for any reason other than its ability to do the job you want it to do in the most economic and efficient manner? If so, you have been manipulated. Which means you are subject to manipulation. And what CA did was much more targeted and precise than the ads that have influenced you. They honed their messages to precisely respond to each FB user's fears and prejudices.

Second, even if you are correct and only the weak-minded fell for the sophisticated, pinpointed efforts of Cambridge Analytica, does it not bother you that FB allowed the manipulation of the weak-minded by one political party to influence our elections? Does that not weaken our Democracy and doesn't that give you pause? Does it not bother you that Steve Bannon held all those weak minded people in the palm of his hand and pulled their strings while Zuckerberg smiled down on the whole transaction?

ETA: Don't miss the British news expose on Cambridge Analytica linked in Melissa B's thread. These guys are who has truckloads of personal data, and who have been doing psychological profiling on 50 million American voters: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10380218




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I am SO GLAD I never signed on to Facebook. Ohiogal Mar 2018 #1
Facebook began emotional manipulation years ago Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #2
+1. They have teams of PhDs working on it dalton99a Mar 2018 #22
+2 nt backtoblue Mar 2018 #24
I'm too smart to use fACEbOOK and other anti social media. TexasProgresive Mar 2018 #3
I understand where you're going... Wounded Bear Mar 2018 #4
I know you didn't. But how much of the infighting here in the primaries and run up to the election Squinch Mar 2018 #8
Primaries are about infighting Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #16
If it was happening, I would assume that it was happening on both sides of the Squinch Mar 2018 #34
Cuthbert, why aren't you wondering if they and you Hortensis Mar 2018 #59
There were lots of suspect blogs, websites, and articles drug here from somewhere emulatorloo Mar 2018 #83
So what you are saying Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2018 #87
Thats not what I said at all emulatorloo Mar 2018 #90
Have you looked recently ? CentralMass Mar 2018 #37
At what? Squinch Mar 2018 #40
The infighting CentralMass Mar 2018 #46
Can you say what it is you are saying? Yes, there is still infighting. Yes, there is still Squinch Mar 2018 #48
This infighting, IMO,has nothing to do with FB. It is manufactured right here, CentralMass Mar 2018 #50
Some of us do not SoCalNative Mar 2018 #5
Thank you. Correcting. Squinch Mar 2018 #10
I'm in that camp... Wounded Bear Mar 2018 #15
Me neither. I only use it to communicate with friends and family around the globe and Neema Mar 2018 #58
Me, neither. And never "friended" anyone I'd never met in person. ancianita Mar 2018 #115
Mark is Zuckerberg's first name and..... Little Star Mar 2018 #6
Thank you. I corrected. Squinch Mar 2018 #14
But even though YOU control your feed, what do you think about the fact that Squinch Mar 2018 #42
We've normalized casual modern exploitation in exchange for convenience. n/t OneGrassRoot Mar 2018 #7
I use FB Purity Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #9
I don't use Facebook, and I'm not sure why you are targeting/accusing DUers. Strange. demmiblue Mar 2018 #11
Just because you have not seen it doesn't mean it does not exist. But thanks for kicking. Squinch Mar 2018 #20
You're welcome! I am guessing that you are a Facebook user. n/t demmiblue Mar 2018 #32
Never have been. Squinch Mar 2018 #35
I love FB and have no intention of giving it up...n/t monmouth4 Mar 2018 #49
Responding to your edit, what do you mean by "more primary drama?" Squinch Mar 2018 #43
Realize even if you don't use face Facebook marylandblue Mar 2018 #12
Yes. This. I wonder how much of the hate that was swirling here Squinch Mar 2018 #23
Not certain that only the weak-minded are duped... LanternWaste Mar 2018 #13
Not how this works Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #26
I get it, Lantern. You feel there is nothing to see here and the CA hijacking of 50 million Squinch Mar 2018 #28
I know, right? Tipperary Mar 2018 #79
What bothers me is Facebook, Google and Twitter having FTEs... Anon-C Mar 2018 #17
"Fortunately, I am mighty." - Thor, right as he was slipping into mind control ck4829 Mar 2018 #18
Big K & R..outstanding post. Wwcd Mar 2018 #19
People like to think they're smart and others are severely stupid IronLionZion Mar 2018 #21
Yes! Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #29
I really wonder how much of the viciousness that went on here before the election Squinch Mar 2018 #31
2016 sucked harder than previous election years IronLionZion Mar 2018 #41
Anyone who thinks this is only a Facebook issue is fooling themselves. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #25
+1. n/t pnwmom Mar 2018 #99
let's put it this way I have never voted for anyone but a Democrat gopiscrap Mar 2018 #27
Does it bother you that the trump campaign targeted and manipulated information Squinch Mar 2018 #30
absolutely but it wouldn't bother me a bit if the Democrats did it gopiscrap Mar 2018 #63
Really? It would bother me. Squinch Mar 2018 #64
I am all about the win and at this point I don't care how we get there gopiscrap Mar 2018 #69
Well, I AM CERTAIN--but only because I'm not registered on Facebook hlthe2b Mar 2018 #33
... Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2018 #113
I have never had the problem still_one Mar 2018 #36
Me either, and maybe that is why I am finding the responses by FB users to be Squinch Mar 2018 #38
I guess so squinch still_one Mar 2018 #119
This helps! yallerdawg Mar 2018 #39
Pretending anyone hasn't been manipulated under American capitalism is laughable. But WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2018 #44
Is that what I am doing? Castigating? Squinch Mar 2018 #45
You are right, I am not concerned, I havn't watched the Fox Network since the 2008 primary CentralMass Mar 2018 #47
Does it bother you that the trump campaign, through CA, was able to manipulate the FB Squinch Mar 2018 #52
It bothers me that many sources of information are used to manipulate people. CentralMass Mar 2018 #53
But this was the one with Steve Bannon and Jared holding the strings. Squinch Mar 2018 #56
Other then one wingtnut cousin in my small circle of FB friends I didn't see any major issue during CentralMass Mar 2018 #61
I think we all need to think long and hard how we randr Mar 2018 #51
over the air and cable tv runs billions of minutes of political ads. we should ban them too? nt msongs Mar 2018 #54
Do the tv ads you see result from a detailed psychological profile of you specifically based on Squinch Mar 2018 #60
Most of my facebook... Mike Nelson Mar 2018 #55
I'm in a bunch of anti-Trump groups! LeftInTX Mar 2018 #102
We've all been manipulated by media of some sort at some point Bettie Mar 2018 #57
Just like using gasoline to start a grill Blecht Mar 2018 #62
It is data mining disguised as social networking dalton99a Mar 2018 #66
Dangerous data mining Blecht Mar 2018 #70
so if not fb, what? i promote my small business there. mopinko Mar 2018 #65
I don't know. Really I don't. I have never used it and don't even like Squinch Mar 2018 #68
i never take the quizzes, so there's that. mopinko Mar 2018 #71
True. But they did hand trump 50 million detailed psychological profiles of voting Americans to Squinch Mar 2018 #73
I'm not boycotting FB. It serves too many social purposes for me. phleshdef Mar 2018 #67
Berners! Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #72
I am a Hillary supporter. I believe if they were manipulating Bernie supporters, they were Squinch Mar 2018 #74
Yes Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #75
It really does seem like science fiction. Squinch Mar 2018 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Mar 2018 #122
Ya know, during the primary of 2016, right here on DU GusBob Mar 2018 #76
Bull. A good percentage of my FB friend voted for Bernie in the primary and we all voted for Hillary CentralMass Mar 2018 #77
McCain wasn't running Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #93
I cited a comparison to 2008. CentralMass Mar 2018 #95
Yes, well most TV watchers believe they're not marybourg Mar 2018 #80
Yes, and this is that kind of manipulation on speed. Squinch Mar 2018 #89
And there is a way to determine if you followed or liked russian troll FB pages/posts: ehrnst Mar 2018 #81
Wow! You should make this an OP. Squinch Mar 2018 #94
Done. ehrnst Mar 2018 #106
I checked as soon as that was available MuseRider Mar 2018 #117
I voted for Hillary DownriverDem Mar 2018 #82
IMO, libs are different from cons when it comes to manipulation SpankMe Mar 2018 #84
I suspect you are right. I've always noticed how much people seem Squinch Mar 2018 #120
i don't doubt that much content i saw was barbtries Mar 2018 #85
Youre going to get a real wide spectrum of experiences shared here becasue we were all bettyellen Mar 2018 #86
It really hit home when an otherwise 'liberal' friend suddenly started talking about how poboy2 Mar 2018 #92
Yep- that was targeted toward people who were extremely anxious about war bettyellen Mar 2018 #103
Facebook is goldmine when it comes to manipulation as are Amazon and Youtube. Snake Plissken Mar 2018 #88
Where they were most effective was in creating Doodley Mar 2018 #91
Most admired woman Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #123
I have seen numerous posts that are clearly fake news that duers have posted from fb. Tipperary Mar 2018 #96
I was appalled at the sheer depth and breadth of the data being mined. Every click/keystroke deleted retread Mar 2018 #97
I was blown away by how they were cataloging people to find their "paranoid" or "neurotic" Squinch Mar 2018 #118
I always check sources before I read anything. And when I see that a FB friend or relative pnwmom Mar 2018 #98
It bothers the hell out of me. bluescribbler Mar 2018 #100
That's the part that freaks me out. How many of that 50 million? Squinch Mar 2018 #101
I'm proud to say that I have two facebook profiles infullview Mar 2018 #104
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2018 #105
LOL! Squinch Mar 2018 #107
Society is simply going to have to learn MuseRider Mar 2018 #108
My view is that conservatives are easily manipulated by fear, and that is what CA focused on. Nitram Mar 2018 #109
do you watch TV? We don't. turned it off 10 years ago. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #110
Well, I know I wasn't. I have two accounts - George II Mar 2018 #111
Small minded or stupid bpj62 Mar 2018 #112
Dunning-Kruger Overdrive tclambert Mar 2018 #114
Yes, I am too smart. Thanks. progressoid Mar 2018 #116
it will forever boggle my mind, how many people were sucked into the FB borg Skittles Mar 2018 #121
People in general are gullible. Egnever Mar 2018 #125
yup Skittles Mar 2018 #127
I have lost count how many fb memes and fake news I have seen posted here. Tipperary Mar 2018 #128
well, I'm smart enough to use FB Purity. The_jackalope Mar 2018 #124
Honestly, the only thing I can not completely explain is my hatred of Wasserman-Schultz Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #126
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