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49. why does this same skewed narrative from this same(albeit good) resource keep getting

Wed Jan 9, 2019, 04:30 PM

Jan 2019

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trotted out? The metric ranking is entirely problematic. Those who structured the point system even admit that there are holes in their process, which by design, simply favor voting in line with democrats(when republicans are opposed overall) over voting out of line with democrats, even if that choice is the more progressive.

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Kamala Harris ranked as Most Progressive Senator... [View all] SidDithers Jan 2019 OP

Good to see. yardwork Jan 2019 #1

I think of Sherrod Brown as fairly moderate. Good to see him ranked this high. yardwork Jan 2019 #2

on what planet? dsc Jan 2019 #22

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #32

Sometimes Environmental issues and Union issues collide... louis c Jan 2019 #44

that and coal for a long time dsc Jan 2019 #48

As noted below. I really like Sherrod Brown. I think he's terrific. yardwork Jan 2019 #59

i do too and he has a calming effect and good positiions on our issues. I can see him running CTyankee Jan 2019 #162

Good to know. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2019 #3

Sanders is 9? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #4

LOL! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #35

Explain Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #37

... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #39

Or you could just say what you mean Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #42

Or, you could just admit that you already know. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #43

Actually, the way I read his post. Blue_true Jan 2019 #75

Yeah. You're probably right. I'm sure that's it. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #81

Don't feel bad. I have been in those types of posts exchanges before. Blue_true Jan 2019 #82

Actually, I was kidding. (Thanks for trying to help though.) NurseJackie Jan 2019 #83

No I don't Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #85

That's a shame. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #86

I'm here for serious discussion Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #89

Uh-huh. Whatever. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #90

I think you misunderstood Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #94

I understand you much better than you think I do. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #96

I think you are smart Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #97

Too bad. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #98

Why? Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #99

You'll have to figure it out on your own. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #100

You've said that several times Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #101

So now you're accusing me of being dishonest. Charming. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #103

Never said that Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #104

I've done no such thing and you know it. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #105

And I never accused you Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #106

Yes, you did. Don't treat me like I'm stupid. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #112

No I didn't Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #114

Now that's some hair-splitting right there! NurseJackie Jan 2019 #164

Please Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #167

Sanders is 9, right behind Brown. yardwork Jan 2019 #60

This is the list I see.. BS is #9. Cha Jan 2019 #123

That's what he wants you to think. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #131

Lol Trumpocalypse Jan 2019 #138

This cracks me up. This is a lifetime Senate voting scorecard. Kamala Harris only has 5 Snotcicles Jan 2019 #165

+1 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #176

Thank you for posting this polling Gothmog Jan 2019 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #6

She's electable nini Jan 2019 #11

Hillary was smart and strong Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #77

She got the popular vote nini Jan 2019 #93

The electoral college winner gets to be president Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #109

or... I just can dismiss you nini Jan 2019 #110

Yeah facts are troublesome Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #111

You have zero evidence that Bernie would have done any better in the electoral college pnwmom Jan 2019 #133

What in the world are you talking about Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #151

Hillary still is smart and strong. Cha Jan 2019 #127

Another wrong-headed straw dog Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #156

Nah, all you have are insults. you lose. Cha Jan 2019 #169

Pointing out how wrong your post was isn't an insult Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #171

.. Cha Jan 2019 #172

Emojis now Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #173

She only lost the Electoral college because of 70,000 votes in 3 states that were subject to pnwmom Jan 2019 #132

+1 betsuni Jan 2019 #134

I know why she lost and your comment has nothing to do with my post Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #155

There is no guarantee of winning no matter what you do. nt pnwmom Jan 2019 #160

That's brilliant Bradshaw3 Jan 2019 #166

I also voted for McGovern and am proud of it. watoos Jan 2019 #15

+1 Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #33

Trump wasn't electable either IronLionZion Jan 2019 #31

+1, people leave out "The Russians help Trump" part of the equation uponit7771 Jan 2019 #102

One ranking neither denies nor minimizes another wholly separate ranking. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #47

K&R stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #7

Interesting. Thank you for posting this. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #8

Not surprised nini Jan 2019 #9

Kamala Harris is going to make a great Vice-President louis c Jan 2019 #10

Be still my beating heart! n/t Politicub Jan 2019 #21

K&R betsuni Jan 2019 #12

#2 and #3 sheshe2 Jan 2019 #13

Bernie has some purity votes against some legislation that is generally considered progressive. honest.abe Jan 2019 #14

he lost relevance after he voted against russia sanctions AlexSFCA Jan 2019 #17

not really.. and his vote was in line with Kerry's opinion on the Iran details in those sanctions. JCanete Jan 2019 #50

... lapucelle Jan 2019 #108

In fact what I read was he first voted to COMBINE the Iran and Russian sanctions in committee Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #52

Bernie votes against gun control and immigration rights. yardwork Jan 2019 #61

Good point. honest.abe Jan 2019 #63

But is she "likeable?" johnp3907 Jan 2019 #16

I think she is. It matters. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #20

Yea, they would rather have Trump than vote for someone who doesn't make them feel all goosebumpy leftofcool Jan 2019 #130

Like. Hell, I Love Her... louis c Jan 2019 #24

Yes... very. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #177

That has a lot to do with what state elected them. Honeycombe8 Jan 2019 #18

Very good point. marybourg Jan 2019 #27

It struck me how the list reinforces the fact that... SidDithers Jan 2019 #28

+1 Kurt V. Jan 2019 #54

Those first five or six, or even seven or eight, are quite an impressive group. George II Jan 2019 #19

only one from a trump state dsc Jan 2019 #23

I have to say I take issue with some of their ranking of states dsc Jan 2019 #25

Ohio is a strange state politically. I've traveled to or through it dozens of times.... George II Jan 2019 #29

Interesting list mcar Jan 2019 #26

I can easily see the following senators as a great POTUS or VP. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #30

Agreed these DEMOCRATS are all great! Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #53

Agreed! We Democrats have a strong bench NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #71

Yes, A list of Excellent Dems! Thank Cha Jan 2019 #87

Sheldon Whitehouse of bdamomma Jan 2019 #34

It's Warren on this list Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #36

The top three are in the top four of the OP list: George II Jan 2019 #107

WOOT! ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #38

k&r bigtree Jan 2019 #40

All of the great - some with long consistent careers in Congress. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #41

Meh. She's good, but #3, #%, #8, and #9 are better. TSheehan Jan 2019 #45

Meh on the 9th one down from the top Cha Jan 2019 #74

I would add Mazie to the list. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #178

She is my first choice for 2020 backabby-blue Jan 2019 #46

why does this same skewed narrative from this same(albeit good) resource keep getting JCanete Jan 2019 #49

Excellent point! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #179

I wonder how this will be received. I am not at all surprised, she is AMAZING! Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #51

received as a bullshit metric. The actual resource is good, but their method of calculating this JCanete Jan 2019 #56

Wasn't the vote on the war in Iraq about 17 years ago? Six of those in the top ten... George II Jan 2019 #95

thinking you really really missed the point of what an example is. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #124

Didn't miss it at all. Read the post to which I responded again. You spoke about.... George II Jan 2019 #140

holy fuck. Because my point wasn't that vote specifically. My point was that a vote like that, JCanete Jan 2019 #144

Well then, why not use a current example? I'm satisfied with the way they do their ratings. George II Jan 2019 #146

of course you are, because you know its biased but its biased in a way that gives you the JCanete Jan 2019 #149

That's curious, about six months ago (just guessing the timeframe) when Sanders was higher.... George II Jan 2019 #152

he was not higher in the rankings at progressive punch, I assure you. I've seen this same study JCanete Jan 2019 #154

Not well I see. Cha Jan 2019 #88

And i promise you the ANALYSIS certain folks will NOW do of the metrics used to Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #143

sure...it would have confirmed my sense of things and I may not have been as suspicious. Somebody JCanete Jan 2019 #161

Of course NOT! lol Cha Jan 2019 #168

Solid list Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2019 #55

We do run the gamut, do we not? akraven Jan 2019 #57

Ha, my Sen Mazie is "more Progressive" Cha Jan 2019 #58

keep telling yourself that. JCanete Jan 2019 #62

You don't know anything about her? You've been missing out! yardwork Jan 2019 #65

Mahalo, yardwork! Cha Jan 2019 #69

Hi there! yardwork Jan 2019 #80

Facts are Facts. Cha Jan 2019 #84

You keep digging your deep denials. Cha Jan 2019 #67

refutation coming....should I wait? nt JCanete Jan 2019 #70

"BS is #9" Cha Jan 2019 #78

yeah figured I didn't need to wait. Why not make up your own study and say according to your metric JCanete Jan 2019 #125

.. Cha Jan 2019 #128

Strawmen and insults as a defense. ehrnst Jan 2019 #136

thanks ehrnst, really insightful. Not a single bit of evidence in your post, just a rant about me. JCanete Jan 2019 #145

That glass house comfortable enough for you? ehrnst Jan 2019 #147

sigh...do you have an argument to do with the study or not? I'm thinking not, but will JCanete Jan 2019 #150

Here's the methodology, tho I can't imagine that it's anywhere near as thorough as your research: ehrnst Jan 2019 #92

I already expained the problem with their methodology. Do you have the ammo JCanete Jan 2019 #126

It doesn't agree with your "short period of research" ehrnst Jan 2019 #135

um...again...this isn't about my own research. This is about the methodology which has what JCanete Jan 2019 #148

Thanks, ehrnst.. Cha Jan 2019 #129

Thank you! yardwork Jan 2019 #137

+1 Tarheel_Dem Jan 2019 #64

Ha.. some are deep denial.. Cha Jan 2019 #68

There's a few that are... SidDithers Jan 2019 #66

Right!.. I knew already knew about Mazie.. Cha Jan 2019 #73

The more I see of Mazie the more I like her NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #72

Mahalo, Riff! She's brilliant! Cha Jan 2019 #79

I've watched her grill republicans testifying before the Judiciary Committee.... George II Jan 2019 #91

Mazie's eye is on the prize! Cha Jan 2019 #113

Oh yeah!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #180

But but but... nycbos Jan 2019 #76

but but but now I have this study that is actually entirely broken to PROVE PROVE PROVE JCanete Jan 2019 #159

She was fabulous on "The View" yesterday. betsuni Jan 2019 #115

Oh Good to know.. Thank You, Cha Jan 2019 #116

You're welcome -- please watch, easy to find on YouTube! betsuni Jan 2019 #117

I will.. thank you Cha Jan 2019 #118

Strangely enough.. I cannot find Cha Jan 2019 #119

Here's the whole show, she comes on half-way through (17:14): betsuni Jan 2019 #120

omg.. I'm sorry, I was looking Cha Jan 2019 #121

That was a good show for her. She did well. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #142

K&R Jamaal510 Jan 2019 #122

.. Cha Jan 2019 #174

Note that Senator Harris has been a climate activist her entire career. Hortensis Jan 2019 #139

Thank You about Kamala, Hortensis! Cha Jan 2019 #175

Harris/Klobuchar 2020 DesertRat Jan 2019 #141

Notice all the D's? Progressives are a sub-set. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #153

I called her office and ranted SHRED Jan 2019 #157

I didn't know much about her Cha Jan 2019 #170

K&R Gothmog Jan 2019 #158

I don't know much about her but I liked what I saw during the Congressional hearings on Kavanaugh. jalan48 Jan 2019 #163