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Mosby

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Thu Mar 7, 2019, 02:49 PM Mar 2019

HOW INFLUENTIAL IS AIPAC? LESS THAN BEER SELLERS, PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS, AND TOYOTA [View all]

Congresswoman Ilhan Omar’s controversial comments, repeatedly suggesting that the relationship between the United States and Israel is fueled by vast sums of lobbying money, have been condemned by several of her fellow Democrats. Still, her allegations linger , with The New York Times publishing a story seriously examining Omar’s premise and wondering “Has Aipac—founded more than 50 years ago to ‘strengthen, protect and promote the U.S.-Israel relationship’—become too powerful?” In the online edition of the article, the question was positioned directly below an image of a pro-Israel activist in tefillin.

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For the period between 1998 and 2018, AIPAC didn’t make a dent in the Center for Responsive Politics’ list of the top-spending lobbying groups. The US Chamber of Commerce spent $1.5 billion during that span, with the National Association of Realtors coming in a distant second, at $534 million. In 2018, top spenders included Google parent company Alphabet, which spent $21.7 million in Washington, and Facebook, which shelled out over $12 million to lobbyists that year. The third-largest spender of 2018 was the Open Society Policy Center, a project of the notably Israel-critical billionaire George Soros, which ran up a $31.5 million tab in its attempts to influence the federal government. That nearly doubled the organization’s $16 million in spending in 2017, another year that AIPAC failed to crack the top 50, unlike such notorious civic menaces as American Amusements and AARP.

In 2018, total pro-Israel lobbying spending was around $5 million, of which AIPAC accounted for $3.5 million. In contrast, Native American casinos spent around $22 million that year. By Tablet’s count, AIPAC was the 147th highest-ranked entity in terms of lobbying spending in 2018. Their expenditures were about the same as International Paper, a company which is seldom tweet-stormed or even written about. The American Association of Airport Executives and Association of American Railroads outspent AIPAC by nearly a million dollars each—sensible, given the rivalry between the respective modes of transportation whose interests they represent. It’s $2 million behind both American Airlines and the Recording Industry Association of America, entities whose malign influence has gone regrettably underexamined over the years.

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/281477/how-influential-is-aipac

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And now we introduce you to the concept of bundling Recursion Mar 2019 #1
that's an interesting reply. Mosby Mar 2019 #2
And the NRA spent less than AIPAC Recursion Mar 2019 #5
WTF are you talking about? leftynyc Mar 2019 #7
$862,000 in contributions from the NRA last cycle Recursion Mar 2019 #9
And you don't count the contributions leftynyc Mar 2019 #11
I said, $862K. Very small by lobbying standards. Recursion Mar 2019 #16
I have no idea where you're getting your numbers leftynyc Mar 2019 #20
Ah, I see your confusion. There are two categories of spending opensecrets tracks Recursion Mar 2019 #27
Are you counting the contributions that AIPAC makes to candidates. Blue_true Mar 2019 #39
There is simply no comparison leftynyc Mar 2019 #48
I respect your insight and often read your posts. Blue_true Mar 2019 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #8
This is an odd conflation of direct spending with "influence" nt ExciteBike66 Mar 2019 #3
Spending is an obvious way to measure influence. Mosby Mar 2019 #4
Why not try results? ExciteBike66 Mar 2019 #6
what did the chamber spend 1.5 billion on if not infuence, favorable legislation? Mosby Mar 2019 #12
Wouldn't a more accurate example of 'parsing words' be ignoring other forms of influence LanternWaste Mar 2019 #18
Well, you might look at fundraising at events hosted by AIPAC Recursion Mar 2019 #10
Very good point. Blue_true Mar 2019 #40
I mean, there are Israeli lobbies besides AIPAC Recursion Mar 2019 #47
Isn't J Street a liberal leaning group? Blue_true Mar 2019 #54
It is! Recursion Mar 2019 #55
Facts don't matter on DU DavidDvorkin Mar 2019 #13
I also say the same thing when people disagree with me. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #17
It's become open season. I'm sickened. grossproffit Mar 2019 #50
Do beer sellers, accountants, and Toyota attempt to influence US policy toward Israel? Mr. Smith Mar 2019 #14
I was thinking something similar zipplewrath Mar 2019 #21
America's biggest zionist support groups are ALL Christian, mainly Hortensis Mar 2019 #15
Israeli troops did run over an American with a bulldozer, IIRC. maxsolomon Mar 2019 #24
I'd forgotten loong ago. Nothing. But Hortensis Mar 2019 #31
Rachel Corrie atreides1 Mar 2019 #32
Nothing. The soldier ran over her knowing that he would walk Scot free and our politicians Blue_true Mar 2019 #41
Does money donated equal influence? shanny Mar 2019 #19
I don't know, why don't you ask a lobbyist? Mosby Mar 2019 #22
I'm sure those whose living depends on it would never do that. shanny Mar 2019 #23
Progressive Democrats have a solution for America's distrust of politicians: Stop accepting corporat Mosby Mar 2019 #25
Why yes, they do. And those I support do exactly that. shanny Mar 2019 #28
Like lobbyists are going to admit their jobs accomplish nothing. Blue_true Mar 2019 #43
Ask Sen. Paul Simon who played a key role in his 1984 election RandySF Mar 2019 #26
1984? nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #44
Ron Paul? The racist Jew hater? grossproffit Mar 2019 #49
Highly influential if you consider the 127 billion lifetime aid delivered to Israel Devil Child Mar 2019 #29
the US funds the Palestinians as well, about 1.5 billion per year. Mosby Mar 2019 #33
You can always tweet Rep. Omar on that Devil Child Mar 2019 #36
You keep tossing out straw men. Blue_true Mar 2019 #45
I didn't make a strawman argument, I was adding context. Mosby Mar 2019 #46
Incorrect, they have conflated criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism JCMach1 Mar 2019 #30
whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabout...nt RandiFan1290 Mar 2019 #34
This article is deceptively misleading. procon Mar 2019 #35
The article addresses the differences in spending and organization of AIPAC vs. PACS Mosby Mar 2019 #37
Why are we quibbling over a dollar amount of bribes paid to corrupt politicians? procon Mar 2019 #38
Both AIPAC and the NRA give money. In various amounts. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #42
We see and understand what you are doing. nt allgood33 Mar 2019 #51
Who is "we"? Are you threatening me? What is it that you think you "understand"? Mosby Mar 2019 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #56
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