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Hortensis

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31. I'd forgotten loong ago. Nothing. But

Thu Mar 7, 2019, 04:12 PM

Mar 2019

she'd entered a closed military zone to protest and placed herself in front of it, weakening her parents' case for justice in civil court. She was 23, so young.

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HOW INFLUENTIAL IS AIPAC? LESS THAN BEER SELLERS, PUBLIC ACCOUNTANTS, AND TOYOTA [View all] Mosby Mar 2019 OP

And now we introduce you to the concept of bundling Recursion Mar 2019 #1

that's an interesting reply. Mosby Mar 2019 #2

And the NRA spent less than AIPAC Recursion Mar 2019 #5

WTF are you talking about? leftynyc Mar 2019 #7

$862,000 in contributions from the NRA last cycle Recursion Mar 2019 #9

And you don't count the contributions leftynyc Mar 2019 #11

I said, $862K. Very small by lobbying standards. Recursion Mar 2019 #16

I have no idea where you're getting your numbers leftynyc Mar 2019 #20

Ah, I see your confusion. There are two categories of spending opensecrets tracks Recursion Mar 2019 #27

Are you counting the contributions that AIPAC makes to candidates. Blue_true Mar 2019 #39

There is simply no comparison leftynyc Mar 2019 #48

I respect your insight and often read your posts. Blue_true Mar 2019 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #8

This is an odd conflation of direct spending with "influence" nt ExciteBike66 Mar 2019 #3

Spending is an obvious way to measure influence. Mosby Mar 2019 #4

Why not try results? ExciteBike66 Mar 2019 #6

what did the chamber spend 1.5 billion on if not infuence, favorable legislation? Mosby Mar 2019 #12

Wouldn't a more accurate example of 'parsing words' be ignoring other forms of influence LanternWaste Mar 2019 #18

Well, you might look at fundraising at events hosted by AIPAC Recursion Mar 2019 #10

Very good point. Blue_true Mar 2019 #40

I mean, there are Israeli lobbies besides AIPAC Recursion Mar 2019 #47

Isn't J Street a liberal leaning group? Blue_true Mar 2019 #54

It is! Recursion Mar 2019 #55

Facts don't matter on DU DavidDvorkin Mar 2019 #13

I also say the same thing when people disagree with me. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #17

It's become open season. I'm sickened. grossproffit Mar 2019 #50

Do beer sellers, accountants, and Toyota attempt to influence US policy toward Israel? Mr. Smith Mar 2019 #14

I was thinking something similar zipplewrath Mar 2019 #21

America's biggest zionist support groups are ALL Christian, mainly Hortensis Mar 2019 #15

Israeli troops did run over an American with a bulldozer, IIRC. maxsolomon Mar 2019 #24

I'd forgotten loong ago. Nothing. But Hortensis Mar 2019 #31

Rachel Corrie atreides1 Mar 2019 #32

Nothing. The soldier ran over her knowing that he would walk Scot free and our politicians Blue_true Mar 2019 #41

Does money donated equal influence? shanny Mar 2019 #19

I don't know, why don't you ask a lobbyist? Mosby Mar 2019 #22

I'm sure those whose living depends on it would never do that. shanny Mar 2019 #23

Progressive Democrats have a solution for America's distrust of politicians: Stop accepting corporat Mosby Mar 2019 #25

Why yes, they do. And those I support do exactly that. shanny Mar 2019 #28

Like lobbyists are going to admit their jobs accomplish nothing. Blue_true Mar 2019 #43

Ask Sen. Paul Simon who played a key role in his 1984 election RandySF Mar 2019 #26

1984? nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #44

Ron Paul? The racist Jew hater? grossproffit Mar 2019 #49

Highly influential if you consider the 127 billion lifetime aid delivered to Israel Devil Child Mar 2019 #29

the US funds the Palestinians as well, about 1.5 billion per year. Mosby Mar 2019 #33

You can always tweet Rep. Omar on that Devil Child Mar 2019 #36

You keep tossing out straw men. Blue_true Mar 2019 #45

I didn't make a strawman argument, I was adding context. Mosby Mar 2019 #46

Incorrect, they have conflated criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism JCMach1 Mar 2019 #30

whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabout...nt RandiFan1290 Mar 2019 #34

This article is deceptively misleading. procon Mar 2019 #35

The article addresses the differences in spending and organization of AIPAC vs. PACS Mosby Mar 2019 #37

Why are we quibbling over a dollar amount of bribes paid to corrupt politicians? procon Mar 2019 #38

Both AIPAC and the NRA give money. In various amounts. GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #42

We see and understand what you are doing. nt allgood33 Mar 2019 #51

Who is "we"? Are you threatening me? What is it that you think you "understand"? Mosby Mar 2019 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Mar 2019 #56