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In reply to the discussion: Should the students who benefited from deceit be expelled? [View all]hughee99
(16,113 posts)You cant steal an education. If you could, that would make this a lot easier. You could take it from one person, give it to someone else, and call it done. Educations have to be earned, what was stolen was the opportunity to earn one, and in the case Im talking about, the child may not have even known. The opportunity is gone forever. The people on the wait list have moved on with their lives. By all means, punish the parents, and if the student was complicit (fake scores or lying on the application) punish them too. There is your deterrent.
I dont believe in punishing people if you dont even know if they did anything wrong. Lets be honest, taking a diploma away from a student is nothing other than punishment. It doesnt undo an injustice, the person on the waiting list doesnt get it instead. I also dont believe that we should decide who does and does not deserve punishment based on their identity rather than their crime.
As far as saying theres no way to know if they actually did the work, I dont get that leap at all unless you are looking to further punish, specifically, the student. The student would have gone through 4 years of classes, tests, presentations, projects, etc... if the faculty has no idea if any of the students work is genuine, then why couldnt you make the same argument for any student at all? Eddies parents bribed a coach to say he a decent sports recruit, how do we know his work was his own? Teddys parents donated a building to the school, we have no reason to question his integrity.
Its interesting that at the beginning, you were very rigid in your belief that crime shouldnt be rewarded, while I was willing to look at things on a situational basis. I had a feeling after mentioning DACA, your position on that was going to soften.