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madokie

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28. Hell, I didn't know he turned into a hippie in his last days
Thu Sep 6, 2012, 04:14 PM
Sep 2012

If I'd known that I'd been reading up on LBJ. I always like his wife and girls as they all had class or to me they did.
Civil rights is enough for me to put him up with the good ones.
I remember growing up in a region where there was the white middle class, a few cherokee middle class, then us white trash and Cherokee trash. we didn't have any blacks in our area so I'd never been around any black people. I'd gone to work after school in the 10th grade at a gas/service station and we sold gas, batteries, tires, bulbs, fan belts, windshield wipers and install them when that was required. Anyway a car pulled into the gas stall and a black family got out of the car, stretching their legs and arms like they've been on the road a while, the two kids heading for the soft drink machine and I ask how much gas and what else and the man asked me to fill the tank and check under the hood if I would and give the tires a looksee, back then tires didn't last but about 10 to 15 thousand miles so they were always a worry. Anyway my boss woke up from his nape and this was a guy up to that point I'd have stepped in front of a car for, here he come busting out through the door saying to this perfect gentleman that get your blankedly blank ass out of here that you just go on down the road there cause the next town has a bunch of you sonabitches there (his words not mine.) I was floored, my spirit was broken as I'd learned to live within the small confines of class of the area where we lived and the people who lived there and I'd never heard any one say anything like this before. We didn't have any blacks living in the area so I was ignorant to the racism of the day except for towards people like us white trash and my Cherokee neighbors and friends. I'll never forget that day for a lot of reasons, I'll give one, one was that here a perfect gentletrashman needing gas, stops with his family at our service station to buy gas and whatever else he may need and my boss come out running him off calling him all kinds of names, his family too. I was sick to my stomach and still am when I think of this. That day made sure that I would never see the color of a persons skin and make a judgment call on him or her, girl or boy. Thats why I like Johnson, he helped to right that wrong.

Sigh BeyondGeography Sep 2012 #1
longterm beneifts are still with us and he never sucked up to republicans... msongs Sep 2012 #2
All set to say No Politicalboi Sep 2012 #3
I think I am the only person on DU who believes the Warren Report Taverner Sep 2012 #4
I Agree With You Re Oswald. Paladin Sep 2012 #11
Read James Summers' "JFK and the Unspeakable" hifiguy Sep 2012 #13
I've read all this in other sources Taverner Sep 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #22
Oh it was incomplete Taverner Sep 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2012 #31
Yep, that's the ticket. A mentally-ill sharp-shooter who could race down stairs and not breathe WinkyDink Sep 2012 #43
You're not the only one. ballabosh Sep 2012 #55
He was too smart to have had Kennedy killed in Texas Freddie Stubbs Sep 2012 #9
Really? Where else would LBJ have held sway? MACBIRD. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #44
I've lived in Texas most of my life... MicaelS Sep 2012 #59
The good things he did endure.. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #5
Ask the widow or orphan of anyone who died in Vietnam about your second sentence... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #12
I know a woman in her 40's who is still mad she never got to meet her father Taverner Sep 2012 #21
I served. I agree with the sentence I wrote.... Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #36
under clinton the following should be mentioned dsc Sep 2012 #52
Yes, but Gays still needed to serve in Secret. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #63
not in the rest of government they didn't dsc Sep 2012 #65
Nixon was President from 1969 to 1974. As in: It wasn't all LBJ. WinkyDink Sep 2012 #45
He'd have been great except for Vietnam... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #6
Not really that complicated. If it wasn't for the Vietnam War he would have been one of the best LynneSin Sep 2012 #7
Ah but that issue WAS a doozy.... Taverner Sep 2012 #15
About 416,500 U.S. Servicemen died in WWII between 1941 and 1945. Was Roosevelt a bad President? n/t Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #37
World War II was necesarry. The Vietnam War was not. Taverner Sep 2012 #38
You do know that Johnson did not start Vietnam. Out involvement began in 1956, with 401 deaths. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #60
You've heard of Pearl Harbor? WinkyDink Sep 2012 #46
Yes, had relatives in the Pacific, European, and North African theaters. Agnosticsherbet Sep 2012 #61
Plus, if it hadn't been for Vietnam... regnaD kciN Sep 2012 #17
"Hey, Hey, LBJ how many kids did you kill today?" Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2012 #8
Let me invoke Michelle Obama and Robert Caro. hifiguy Sep 2012 #10
Let me throw in an article from the Atlantic in 73 Taverner Sep 2012 #14
Thanks for that great link. hifiguy Sep 2012 #24
Put me down for a *sigh*. Brigid Sep 2012 #16
He is one of my 50/50 people. Are_grits_groceries Sep 2012 #18
LBJ was a very friendly President. I did not know him personally, but he still saw fit to send me retread Sep 2012 #19
Viet Nam was terrible for him standingtall Sep 2012 #25
I blame France Taverner Sep 2012 #27
That much is true standingtall Sep 2012 #29
He sent me to college. morningglory Sep 2012 #26
Hell, I didn't know he turned into a hippie in his last days madokie Sep 2012 #28
Love this part Taverner Sep 2012 #39
LBJ, 1972 nyquil_man Sep 2012 #57
Not a question with a binary answer. MineralMan Sep 2012 #30
Overall Good, i think many others could easily have done the Vietnam Mess JI7 Sep 2012 #32
Wasn't JFK far more to blame for Vietnam jsmirman Sep 2012 #33
Yes he was Taverner Sep 2012 #40
No he wasn't. former9thward Sep 2012 #50
Correct... (JFK in his own words) MinM Sep 2012 #58
I gotta tell you, my understanding is he sent in a lot of Americans jsmirman Sep 2012 #64
Vietnam: JFK's decision against escalation MinM Sep 2012 #67
The most progressive of my lifetime (so far) Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #34
Good on domestic policy, bad on foreign policy LeftishBrit Sep 2012 #35
LBJ cycle rider Sep 2012 #41
I think about punching reporters in the stomach all the time Nevernose Sep 2012 #42
LBJ reply. cycle rider Sep 2012 #47
I really don't like him...he was corrupt...but he did create ONE good thing...MEDICARE. roamer65 Sep 2012 #48
He also gave us the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Medicaid and a bunch of education bills StevieM Sep 2012 #62
He was an pretty awful person. a pretty good president, and he gets better in retrospect. n/t RichardRay Sep 2012 #49
Boil it down Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 #51
He was both etherealtruth Sep 2012 #53
I saw a documentary on LBJ once Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #54
That damn war. Last progressive president. Great. Terrible. Complicated. Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #56
hippie? I missed that one! flamingdem Sep 2012 #66
I want to make a point about the Gulf of Tonkin incident that led to Viet Nam War 1-Old-Man Sep 2012 #68
oh that is just nonsense Warren Stupidity Sep 2012 #69
It's easy for someone who didn't live through that era, didn't have to live with the raccoon Sep 2012 #70
Oh, and it's easy to dread every day Are_grits_groceries Sep 2012 #71
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