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Celerity

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24. here is some further background
Tue Mar 1, 2022, 11:05 AM
Mar 2022
https://fortune.com/2022/03/01/ukraine-president-zelenskyy-urgent-eu-membership-nato-mutural-defense/

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Will the EU let in Ukraine?

Not likely, at least for a long while.

EU leaders have hailed Zelensky’s heroic defiance and sound open to the idea—on the surface. The presidents of eight EU countries in the Eastern Europe signed a letter on Monday night urging immediate talks on Ukraine’s membership. And on Sunday, EU President Ursula von der Leyen said in an interview, “Ukraine is one of us, and we want them in the EU… Over time, they belong to us.” But Ukraine does not have time. With Russia bombarding its cities, it needs quick action, from a bloc whose decision-making moves at a snail’s pace.

That is one reason the EU’s foreign affairs chief Josep Borrell dismissed any idea of fast-track membership for Ukraine, saying on Monday, “Membership is something that will take a lot of years. We have to provide an answer for the coming hours, not the coming years.” Despite the EU leaders’ gushing support, Zelenskyy could also struggle to win approval for Ukraine’s membership—which requires the agreement of all 27 nations (down from 28, since the U.K. exited last year)—when and if it comes up for a vote. Charles Michel, who heads the European Council of EU leaders, cautioned that there were “different opinions and sensitivities within the EU about enlargement.”

That is an understatement. “Accession,” as new membership is called, is one of the most bitterly divisive issues in Europe, and the EU’s unshakable unity against Vladimir Putin could fray badly once leaders start debating Ukraine joining. French President Emmanuel Macron, who is the current rotating head of the EU, has said he would vote against all new membership applications until the EU implements “deep reform to the way we function institutionally.” Those reforms, like accelerated decision-making and stronger human rights protections in some countries, have yet to occur.

For now, Ukraine has only an “association agreement” with the EU, giving it access to the single market. If and when its membership application is formally accepted, it faces lengthy scrutiny and structural reforms, as well as possible demands from individual countries. Greece, for example, fought for 15 years to have Macedonia change its name to North Macedonia, as a condition for it joining the EU. North Macedonia changed its name in 2020, but it is still waiting to join.

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... milestogo Mar 2022 #1
YES! gademocrat7 Mar 2022 #2
Can someone kindly explain to me whether this is meaningful, beyond symbolism? True Dough Mar 2022 #3
If nothing else, it'll make it easier for Ukrainians to cross into other EU nations like Poland, etc panader0 Mar 2022 #8
Makes sense. Immigration is more seemless True Dough Mar 2022 #11
What does it mean for Beachnutt Mar 2022 #4
The documentary Winter of Fire shows why. texasfiddler Mar 2022 #7
Here you go onetexan Mar 2022 #9
Is "accepting an application" for membership intrepidity Mar 2022 #5
we are NOT granting Ukraine EU membership immediately, this OP title is very misleading Celerity Mar 2022 #16
Thank you, I just changed it nt Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #21
sorry if I came across as a bit harsh, I understand there is a lot of confusion Celerity Mar 2022 #22
No, you are absolutely right Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #23
here is some further background Celerity Mar 2022 #24
The EU accepted Ukraine's application. The vote on final acceptance will be later today. highplainsdem Mar 2022 #6
I am confused as to what you mean by 'final acceptance' Celerity Mar 2022 #18
awesome news!!!! democratsruletheday Mar 2022 #10
Good. I wish them luck!!! NT Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #12
NATO should do same! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #13
They can replace edhopper Mar 2022 #14
Forbes: After Zelensky Signs Membership Application, Here's What Could Come Next onetexan Mar 2022 #15
We need to stop "sending messages" Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #17
huh? onetexan Mar 2022 #26
They need ATGMs, MANPADS and Small arms. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #28
i just heard a replay of Ali Velshi that the EU is sending a VAST amount of weapons to Ukraine onetexan Mar 2022 #30
Excellent information Wicked Blue Mar 2022 #20
Think maybe Britain will want back in now? Silent3 Mar 2022 #19
I think you'll find that they might be blocked by some EU members ! OnDoutside Mar 2022 #25
LOL Right??? onetexan Mar 2022 #31
To paraphrase Rick Wilson, they'll need to go through some things first. OnDoutside Mar 2022 #32
Europe has to face vlad with, or without Ukraine. Might as well use their help lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #27
I'm not convinced this is accurate muriel_volestrangler Mar 2022 #29
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