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87. So, calling them brainwashed...

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 04:13 PM

Oct 2012

is in no way disrespectful?

Although, I do agree with you. A lot of people have been 'brainwashed' by easy, wealthy lives. 'Brainwashed' by freedoms and comforts that 99.99% of all humans could only ever dream of. 'Brainwashed' to think that all violence and all war is and always has been a waste.

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I'm a veteran, and a pacifist. And I'm a little disgusted by the disrespect voiced toward the Tomb [View all] Aristus Oct 2012 OP

+1 ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #1

+2 Norbert Oct 2012 #116

+3 840high Oct 2012 #152

Even in a hurricane... FourScore Oct 2012 #174

Actually, sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #176

That's a very powerful picture NICO9000 Oct 2012 #180

A powerful image SemperEadem Oct 2012 #182

Reminds me of the monsoons in Vietnam pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #183

Good pic, but that pic is from September, not from Sandy and not from any hurricane tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #184

It's revolting, and frankly, it makes DU suck. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #2

I agree BainsBane Oct 2012 #53

Take heart in how many are showing up to call out the disrespect. nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #73

+1,000,000 cbrer Oct 2012 #86

given that this monument is the only grave that some families ever had for their roguevalley Oct 2012 #132

I agree. hogwyld Oct 2012 #3

Yes, but all Americans should respect those who have served BainsBane Oct 2012 #47

People on this board are now critical of the dead? . . . Journeyman Oct 2012 #4

Yeah, there are at least 2 threads in GD that are openly contemptuous of the Tomb, Aristus Oct 2012 #11

Links, please? speedoo Oct 2012 #24

^^^ +1,000 nt DonViejo Oct 2012 #28

Here's one: Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #38

Well, it's the symbolism. It's about THE SACRIFICE. I'm as anti-war as they come. But this is calimary Oct 2012 #55

Yes. Generals who've served in actual combat know war is hell & are very reluctant to commit troops. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #84

With all due respect... PavePusher Oct 2012 #166

Thanks. Some of those posts are simply disgusting. speedoo Oct 2012 #58

I'm a Vietnam Vet also glacierbay Oct 2012 #133

+100 n/t whathehell Oct 2012 #140

I saw one of those threads, kinda wish I hadn't. Ugh. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2012 #92

I may have gone farther afield than some think necessary, but I hope you didn't find mine offensive: freshwest Oct 2012 #119

There is a group on DU that hates anything associated with the military. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #15

Sadly, there are a number of people on DU who are bitter and hateful......... George II Oct 2012 #148

Good Post! txdemsftw Oct 2012 #5

Thank you for saying this. Chan790 Oct 2012 #6

Wish I could rec this LP2K12 Oct 2012 #7

I missed it, thank goodness. How can anybody not be moved my the Tomb sinkingfeeling Oct 2012 #8

Respect dipsydoodle Oct 2012 #9

I share your feelings. Laying there is a man that helped save humanity from a barbarian. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #10

It's awfully easy for those who are not and will never be in harm's way MineralMan Oct 2012 #12

I have nothing against those who guard it, but I think it's folly to lionize cali Oct 2012 #13

Clearly. Robb Oct 2012 #17

. . . Journeyman Oct 2012 #22

Consciously conflating admiration and "folly" seems like... well, folly. LanternWaste Oct 2012 #32

You've made that abundantly clear. More's the pity. 11 Bravo Oct 2012 #35

Thanks, 11 Bang. Aristus Oct 2012 #44

Hoo-ahh, brother! 11 Bravo Oct 2012 #52

Well put. I've been watching all of this play out. And finally, the perfect response. Thank you. nt ncgrits Oct 2012 #90

+1,000,000! nt MADem Oct 2012 #159

Sometimes silence truly is golden. likesmountains 52 Oct 2012 #42

No---I think this is one topic that you should shut the fuck up. trumad Oct 2012 #59

Hm. You again. You sure you're a liberal? kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #62

Right? Texasgal Oct 2012 #70

It's times like this I like to remember the Abraham Lincoln quote mythology Oct 2012 #100

you're right, less than 1% of us ever wear a uniform, and it is, in fact, so you can be an ass pasto76 Oct 2012 #105

Ditto, bro. TahitiNut Oct 2012 #127

It's not lionizing Confusious Oct 2012 #136

How very tolerant of you, lol. As to your next point, how about whathehell Oct 2012 #139

I think the fact that it's guarded continuously, no matter what renate Oct 2012 #14

I wouldn't if somebody really risked getting hurt. . . . BigDemVoter Oct 2012 #41

Their contingency plan calls for them to be brought indoors if their safety is in jeopardy pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #66

Thanks, my husband and I were wondering about this, he was concerned SaveAmerica Oct 2012 #147

AMEN appleannie1 Oct 2012 #16

Every time I go visit my father and mother's grave at Arlington I alway stop at the southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #18

You know, I meant no disrespect to the dead or those who guard it. Skidmore Oct 2012 #19

Service to those in danger will not go undone just because a tiny cadre of men perform a service Aristus Oct 2012 #21

This. mac56 Oct 2012 #33

Thank you for the information. Skidmore Oct 2012 #34

I share your irritation with such people. Aristus Oct 2012 #50

What do you think will go undone due to the absence of one company? LanternWaste Oct 2012 #39

I commented on one of those posts.... CherokeeDem Oct 2012 #20

Oh dear. I commented that those guards should get inside but meant no disrespect. nolabear Oct 2012 #23

It wasn't you, nolabear. Aristus Oct 2012 #25

Please cite an example where somebody Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #63

Reply #74 by stopbush, for starters. There are more... Aristus Oct 2012 #68

That wasn't contempt Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #170

You called them brainwashed TruthAnalyzed Oct 2012 #72

Yup, I think there are a lot of brainwashed people in this country. Kindly Refrain Oct 2012 #78

So, calling them brainwashed... TruthAnalyzed Oct 2012 #87

LOL!! Wait Wut Oct 2012 #51

They do, don't worry Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #110

If they were granted the privilage of getting inside... Norbert Oct 2012 #128

Thank You. I was getting sick of all the rude, snide and stupid comments dballance Oct 2012 #26

My only 2 cents is the safety of those guarding it LynneSin Oct 2012 #27

There are plans to deal with severe weather. Recovered Repug Oct 2012 #56

They won't be put at risk sarge43 Oct 2012 #126

Depends on what is considered disrespectful treestar Oct 2012 #29

By my understanding there are indeed such limits. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #65

People who belittle gestures of honor and respect TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #30

Yep. Exactly. cliffordu Oct 2012 #71

Well said. Lisa D Oct 2012 #104

Thank you. nt. OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #31

Agree. I am wondering if those poor guys will be standing out there when the storm is at its worst jwirr Oct 2012 #36

Agreed. CheeseHead316 Oct 2012 #37

We may not agree with those who decide to take us to war liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #40

k&r Supersedeas Oct 2012 #43

Amen!!!! skeewee08 Oct 2012 #45

Thank you. Lochloosa Oct 2012 #46

Agree 1,000%. It speaks of people who have no real world life experience. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #48

Agree 100% Wait Wut Oct 2012 #49

+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #123

Thank you for your clear thinking, my dear Aristus... CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #54

No mission too difficult The Wizard Oct 2012 #57

From one VN Vet to another glacierbay Oct 2012 #143

We, this band of brothers, The Wizard Oct 2012 #173

Thank you. Sad to see we have our own set of deranged haters here on the left. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #60

As I said in another thread, MADem Oct 2012 #61

I still have the flag that covered the casket of my grandfather..... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #64

. Kurovski Oct 2012 #67

K&R garthranzz Oct 2012 #69

I'm with you man! sdfernando Oct 2012 #74

Everyone has a right to their humbled_opinion Oct 2012 #75

Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2012 #76

Absolutely. still_one Oct 2012 #77

A great big old K&R for this post Homer Wells Oct 2012 #79

Recommended pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #80

This vet stands with you. n/t cynatnite Oct 2012 #81

yep you are 100 percent correct k and r dembotoz Oct 2012 #82

It was only a couple of posts in a mostly respectful thread JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2012 #83

I saw the post earlier Aerows Oct 2012 #85

People on this board Aerows Oct 2012 #88

A thousand times yes! buckyblue Oct 2012 #135

i'm with you. barbtries Oct 2012 #89

We were not able to stop the wars, so let us at least honor and mourn those who died. meti57b Oct 2012 #91

Thank you for saying this and you are 100% right - lynne Oct 2012 #93

Honestly, the vitriol is very disturbing. n/t eggplant Oct 2012 #94

This is pervasive in our society today.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2012 #95

+1 freshwest Oct 2012 #125

To all the veterans Clouseau2 Oct 2012 #96

I honor the intent, the heart of those who want to serve duhneece Oct 2012 #97

Respect The Vets elbloggoZY27 Oct 2012 #98

If only someone had included Ann Coulter and the "c" word Warren DeMontague Oct 2012 #99

I respect them Gore1FL Oct 2012 #101

Really not an issue. Daemonaquila Oct 2012 #151

I applaud them. Gore1FL Oct 2012 #188

The usual DU idiots that think they're much more intelligent and morally superior Gman Oct 2012 #102

i disagree totally with this thread Enrique Oct 2012 #103

+1 quinnox Oct 2012 #129

If I didn't believe in sharing my country with ingrates & dumbasses... Bucky Oct 2012 #106

I thought it was about the fact a FACT that the picture is from last month underpants Oct 2012 #107

dulce bellum inexpertis queentonic Oct 2012 #108

Welcome to DU, queentonic! Aristus Oct 2012 #109

Thank you. great white snark Oct 2012 #111

Part of it is people won't freakin Google, they don't actually stand there in hurricane force winds Hippo_Tron Oct 2012 #112

AGREED Skittles Oct 2012 #113

I'm right there with you, Brother nt MrScorpio Oct 2012 #114

100% agreement grantcart Oct 2012 #115

Well said and I couldn't agree more! n/t Greywing Oct 2012 #117

The number of rec's on this OP Curmudgeoness Oct 2012 #118

Agreed. NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #121

knr-nt NYC_SKP Oct 2012 #120

This Vet stands with you! mailman82 Oct 2012 #122

Strongly agree. Moondog Oct 2012 #124

Ever wonder why there aren't national tombs for artists? If there were, they'd deserver veneration TransitJohn Oct 2012 #130

Yet buckyblue Oct 2012 #138

LOL TransitJohn Oct 2012 #155

Quiet respect buckyblue Oct 2012 #171

Thats a stretch. iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #142

This isn't a fetish. Aristus Oct 2012 #146

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #161

Glad I read this thread first. JoeyT Oct 2012 #131

Bravo Stinky The Clown Oct 2012 #134

Yes, me too. Trailrider1951 Oct 2012 #137

So dumb. iamthebandfanman Oct 2012 #141

+1 WooWooWoo Oct 2012 #144

Looking at the names of those who rec'd the OP, it's a very diverse group. Kaleva Oct 2012 #145

I wish we could stand with them, if only for a few minutes each IDoMath Oct 2012 #149

+1000 blackspade Oct 2012 #150

I disagree with those making those types of comments wholeheartedly,, benld74 Oct 2012 #153

Thanks for your service and well stated. n/t politicaljack78 Oct 2012 #154

Sometimes people's fervor for their ideology and their vision of the world clouds their judgment. bluesbassman Oct 2012 #156

Thanks, bluesbassman. Aristus Oct 2012 #157

The utmost respect. But respect is a rare commodity these days. bluesbassman Oct 2012 #160

Interesting part of our culture that requires respected dedication... Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #158

Well said, sir, and respect to you. sibelian Oct 2012 #162

Loyalty and ritual can be taken to foolish extreme ErikJ Oct 2012 #163

The Tomb of the Unknowns: WWI, WWII, Korea and formerly Vietnam Ash_F Oct 2012 #164

Fuckin-A Recced Crabby Appleton Oct 2012 #165

K and R. Absolutely correct. nt MaeScott Oct 2012 #167

I didn't see the posts and would rather not davidpdx Oct 2012 #168

I read that crap under that great image era veteran Oct 2012 #169

only 98% of people reacted to the photo in the correct way. Enrique Oct 2012 #172

That was BS posted by a now-PPR'd DU intruder pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #186

+Google.... Aviation Pro Oct 2012 #175

Me too. I was outraged at whoever released that file photo trying to capitalize Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #177

THANK YOU WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #178

Thank you for saying this..... prairierose Oct 2012 #179

no one said anything hateful Enrique Oct 2012 #187

I am more disgusted by the disrespect shown to our living veterans... bvar22 Oct 2012 #181

As a vet and peacefreak, I agree, the tombs of the unknowns are about the other victims of .... marble falls Oct 2012 #185