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Syrinx

(14,804 posts) Mon Jan 16, 2012, 07:43 AM Jan 2012

Just ban cigarettes already. Please. [View all]

Really.

I know they are bad for me.

But I smoke them anyway.

Ban them.

Make them illegal.

Instead of just continually raising taxes on them for your latest endeavor, just fucking ban them.

Then maybe I'll quit.

Instead of making me feel guilty, and making me a pariah. Just fucking ban it.

Make tobacco illegal.

Do it. I dare you.

I want you to do it.

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Just ban cigarettes already. Please. [View all] Syrinx Jan 2012 OP

What kind of BS is this ??? Tx4obama Jan 2012 #1

BS? Syrinx Jan 2012 #5

Actually, it's never been proven, Fawke Em Jan 2012 #42

And just to reiterate lest I get attacked... Fawke Em Jan 2012 #47

That article is from 1956...research has come a long way since then Neurotica Jan 2012 #72

No, it's not. That's a mistake. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #109

Actually it has Major Nikon Jan 2012 #74

Yes and no Armin-A Jan 2012 #92

It causes cancer as much as anything else causes cancer Major Nikon Jan 2012 #95

...no sorry. all carcinogens aren't on the same playing field. Armin-A Jan 2012 #96

What I'm saying is that the greater your exposure, the greater your chances Major Nikon Jan 2012 #102

gotcha. we're on the same page now ;p Armin-A Jan 2012 #103

By that standard driving drunk doesn't cause car crashes, shooting heroin won't kill you... Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #97

NO. I think you're missing the point. Armin-A Jan 2012 #98

Independent (non-statistical) evidence can settle whether correlation is related to causation eridani Jan 2012 #117

okay good luck keep a few lung cells alive for 20 years.... Armin-A Jan 2012 #119

It takes very little time to induce cancer in lung cells with known carcinogens eridani Jan 2012 #121

a mutation yes. cancer no Armin-A Jan 2012 #122

Yes, cancer. Google is your friend n/t eridani Jan 2012 #123

yes so is 6 continuing years of research of cell biology Armin-A Jan 2012 #124

Right. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #111

I know tobacco is a legal product in the US Syrinx Jan 2012 #6

I think you forgot the demosincebirth Jan 2012 #21

Calling someone else's post BS after saying what you just said... YellowRubberDuckie Jan 2012 #12

exactly shanti Jan 2012 #53

You don't think cigarettes contribute to lung cancer? onenote Jan 2012 #14

Considering that science hasn't definitively proven that, Fawke Em Jan 2012 #44

wow. Do you also dispute the claim that human activity is a major contributor to climate change? onenote Jan 2012 #51

Nope, that's been proven. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #110

Your "credible" study is from 1956, which means its no longer credible onenote Jan 2012 #116

You really didn't just say that, did you? obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #15

My answer to this type of edhopper Jan 2012 #18

ok, i agree with much of what you post.. but this one is BS. look at the ass end of a filter. dionysus Jan 2012 #28

Ban cigarettes and legalize Pot! Broderick Jan 2012 #29

i can get behind that. dionysus Jan 2012 #37

They will have to pry my alcohol from my cold Broderick Jan 2012 #38

+1 dionysus Jan 2012 #64

I hate pot. Fawke Em Jan 2012 #112

When you can keep that shit in your own lungs, you can smoke anywhere you want. Zoeisright Jan 2012 #32

My brother smoked for approximately 20 years In July he lost a lung to cancer rustydog Jan 2012 #52

you ought to know that that is a ridiculous kind of "proof" hfojvt Jan 2012 #59

You were unaware of all the people who never lived long enough to hedgehog Jan 2012 #75

Another simple-minded imbecile ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #90

almost every male in my family died from lung cancer. it was a death roguevalley Jan 2012 #93

To quote Jerry Reed ... Bake Jan 2012 #100

While I sympathize... LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #2

oh crap btdt oldhippydude Jan 2012 #3

Let's not and say we did taterguy Jan 2012 #4

why don't you pretend that it's banned, and then stop, if that's what you want? Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #7

Yes , that's just what we need more attacks on personal freedom..... bowens43 Jan 2012 #8

You do NOT have the "personal freedom" to blow smoke out that I have to breathe. rustydog Jan 2012 #54

Smoking is a really thoughtless bad example for adults to provide for children. Zorra Jan 2012 #9

Or you could just quit using them being "not illegal" as an excuse to keep smoking them. 99Forever Jan 2012 #10

Organized crime would love for cigarettes to be banned; LeftinOH Jan 2012 #11

Prohibition worked out so well for alcohol hobbit709 Jan 2012 #13

Pretty much exactly what I was going to post. eom tawadi Jan 2012 #87

An interesting book on this subject obamanut2012 Jan 2012 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Obamanaut Jan 2012 #17

Parents should show... meaculpa2011 Jan 2012 #19

How about we get your money until you quit. JVS Jan 2012 #20

I have a friend who has been saying this for years. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #22

Those taxes pay for a lot of important programs. nt Snake Alchemist Jan 2012 #23

Try e-cigarettes. Recovered Repug Jan 2012 #24

True. I also like the e-cigs. I'm pufing (vaping) on one right now... spin Jan 2012 #49

How are they a lot cheaper? RebelOne Jan 2012 #67

Here's Some Math... KharmaTrain Jan 2012 #80

The e-cigarettes I bought are not from a gas station. RebelOne Jan 2012 #83

A Lot Of Different Types Out There... KharmaTrain Jan 2012 #85

You bought a bad brand. pamela Jan 2012 #105

I need big brother and big sister Broderick Jan 2012 #25

I needed them to quit....and I feel honored that the people of.... Tikki Jan 2012 #39

Some sarcasm here, but I left out alcohol Broderick Jan 2012 #43

It may be that many of the fine people of California didn't hedgehog Jan 2012 #76

That works for me, also. Tikki Jan 2012 #86

make them ten bucks apiece. roguevalley Jan 2012 #94

As someone addicted to cigarettes, I agree they should be banned theAntiRand Jan 2012 #26

I just quit cigarettes, cocaine and alcohol. hobbit709 Jan 2012 #30

I was, where you are at. 99Forever Jan 2012 #79

Of course it's a goddamn(ed) choice. Codeine Jan 2012 #101

That will work about as well as Prohibition did... ljm2002 Jan 2012 #27

You could just send the government a check... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #31

Buy in Canada for $8 SOS Jan 2012 #33

Bomb Canada MattBaggins Jan 2012 #63

Suggest people ban alcohol, and the 'freedom lovers' come out, talk about banning smoking and you The Straight Story Jan 2012 #34

That's because tobacco is different from alcohol, Ron Green Jan 2012 #41

I'd rather trade health for freedom than freedom for health The Straight Story Jan 2012 #46

My beers are cool and harm no one second-hand Ter Jan 2012 #57

But...you do drive? The Straight Story Jan 2012 #58

When I still smoked cigs, I only did it outside and away from other non-smokers. phleshdef Jan 2012 #70

Wow. A post listing the health benefits of smoking. Ron Green Jan 2012 #65

I don't care if you drink as long as you don't drive and kill me. I can sit next to totodeinhere Jan 2012 #45

So stay away from smokers if you are so paranoid about it. former9thward Jan 2012 #50

There is substantial scientific documentation of the fact that second hand smoke is harmful. totodeinhere Jan 2012 #73

Your ignored my challenge as I knew you would. former9thward Jan 2012 #78

You are quoting notorious right winger and Fox News broadcaster John Stossel? totodeinhere Jan 2012 #82

This was a ABC News report not Fox but don't let facts get in your way. former9thward Jan 2012 #99

John Stossel was working for ABC but left there and now works for Fox. And he is a right winger. totodeinhere Jan 2012 #104

I apologize for the insult. former9thward Jan 2012 #118

There might be someone with an agenda here, but I don't think it's the CDC. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2012 #120

uh, oh... pipi_k Jan 2012 #35

I switched to a high quality electronic cig over 2 years ago and have never looked back. phleshdef Jan 2012 #36

I agree with you and share your experiences NavyDem Jan 2012 #66

Right on. This invention is going to save lives. phleshdef Jan 2012 #68

We tried prohibition of a popular substance once slackmaster Jan 2012 #40

You have no self control over your life so you want to deny others. former9thward Jan 2012 #48

Cocaine wasn't exactly legal when I was snorting big piles of it. Throd Jan 2012 #55

Is this like a DU analogy Quantess Jan 2012 #56

Nope. Just keep increasing the restrictions on public use. onehandle Jan 2012 #60

'Cus prohibition worked so well for booze and drugs Prophet 451 Jan 2012 #61

if you smoke them now when they are taxed hfojvt Jan 2012 #62

Yes because prohibition was such a success... Taverner Jan 2012 #69

The Mafia Charlemagne Jan 2012 #71

I smoked for 46 years, 2+ packs a day then I quit 4 years ago. Cold turkey. No patches or anything Wistful Vista Jan 2012 #77

Just ban possession of more than a ton of tobacco FarCenter Jan 2012 #81

Big Corporations Thank You Very Much For Your Money zorahopkins Jan 2012 #84

Ban jelly beans, please! Just go ahead and do it! Please! Honeycombe8 Jan 2012 #88

Yes, let's limit freedom of choice even more than we do already. lildreamer316 Jan 2012 #89

I smoked four packs of unfiltered Camels a day. meaculpa2011 Jan 2012 #91

"Psst! I need a cigarette!" "I've got a guy" Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #106

Just put it in your head to quit! sce56 Jan 2012 #107

Great idea. Matariki Jan 2012 #108

The government is not, should not be, in the business of protecting you, or me, from ourselves. Skip Intro Jan 2012 #113

Second take... Skip Intro Jan 2012 #114

Because the first two Wars on Drugs (alcohol-1920s, cannabis-today) have gone so well...... LetTimmySmoke Jan 2012 #115