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yonder

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10. Thanks for this very good post.
Sat Aug 5, 2023, 03:16 PM
Aug 2023

For as long as us humans have left to control the world we’ve created, good and bad, AI is as real a threat as anything excepting castastrophe from climate change or war. This immediate threat to our cultural creativity is among the beginning steps to total appropriation of what make people human: our birthright to interact with others and the world around us, as humans.

This line from your post jumped out at me: “the tech companies ripped off human culture and are selling it back to us.” That is the essence of what unbridled greed has in store for us. An easy creation, falsely disguised and marketed as art, becomes our culture, not for the benefit of people, but for the few who benefit from the people.

A world where crafty offerings from Home Shopping Network, Industrial Light and Magic, the simple poured-concrete landscape lion, velvet Elvis’, The Bachelorette, etc. are offered as proxies to art, is not a world that advances our humanity, IMO.

K & R for visibility Celerity Aug 2023 #1
Thanks! highplainsdem Aug 2023 #5
yw! Celerity Aug 2023 #8
In doing do so would we still see art as a creative enterprise by humainity or Prairie_Seagull Aug 2023 #2
We're heading into uncharted territory, but so far it doesn't look good. highplainsdem Aug 2023 #6
Example of what is already available below. Brainfodder Aug 2023 #3
The problem with our using AI to go after Trump is that it will be seen highplainsdem Aug 2023 #4
I think we have already reached their actual stances as parody? Brainfodder Aug 2023 #7
I agree that a lot of what they say and do looks like it has to be parody to us, highplainsdem Aug 2023 #9
Some are deadly serious sure this isn't swaying voters to go R, TFG ruins that on the daily? Brainfodder Aug 2023 #11
Thanks for this very good post. yonder Aug 2023 #10
Thanks for the kind words! And I agree that AI ranks with climate change and highplainsdem Aug 2023 #12
You're right about the kids. yonder Aug 2023 #13
The copyright office has no power to go after the AI companies. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #14
An almost impossible task. n/t Yavin4 Aug 2023 #15
Not necessarily. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #19
Is there a law against using copyrighted material to train a model? Yavin4 Aug 2023 #22
Copyright infringement does not require sales. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #23
I still don't know if using material to train a model is legally the same as a reproduction or... Yavin4 Aug 2023 #24
It has to get fed into the AI to train it. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #28
It's not technically making a copy of the work. Yavin4 Aug 2023 #31
It's well settled law that an electronic copy is a copy. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #34
How do you even begin to prove what material was used to train it? Amishman Aug 2023 #25
As to the art - Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #27
The larger the dataset used, the harder it is to prove Amishman Aug 2023 #29
That's one of the reason for a class action lawsuit. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #30
Even if the lawsuit is successful and even if the govt imposes strict regulations... Yavin4 Aug 2023 #32
The government already has strict regulations - Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #35
Sure does, but I can stream the Barbie movie any time I want. Yavin4 Aug 2023 #36
I defended a bunch of people who thought the same thing about music. Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #37
Yet, people still download music freely on the internet all of the time all over the world. Yavin4 Aug 2023 #39
No, but just like speeding, those who violate the law by infringing copyrights Ms. Toad Aug 2023 #40
Which will just shift the dynamics Amishman Aug 2023 #38
+1000 Yavin4 Aug 2023 #41
I had no idea she was such a deep thinker dsc Aug 2023 #16
She's said her producer on Family Ties told her she couldn't go highplainsdem Aug 2023 #17
I used to work in the film industry Javaman Aug 2023 #18
No doubt true for many producers. But their jobs would also be largely automated highplainsdem Aug 2023 #26
It's really difficult to sexually harass an AI image. n/t Yavin4 Aug 2023 #33
The "recirculated air" comparison is very apt... Hugin Aug 2023 #20
To paraphrase my thought... Hugin Aug 2023 #21
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