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malaise

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Sun Jan 28, 2024, 02:44 PM Jan 2024

You cannot be providing money and weapons for people who have killed [View all]

nearly 30,000 Palestinians and not expect a response.
The west does not own our planet.
Sorry if this upsets anyone but it is a simple fact.
For the record I have more than a few family members who are veterans from both the US and British military.

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Ah yes, more of the virulently anti west sentiment. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #1
I am a virulent anti-imperialist malaise Jan 2024 #2
Proud Boys slogan is "West is best". David__77 Jan 2024 #6
lol well that settles it. I hear they drink water too. tritsofme Jan 2024 #8
Drink water, and are "anti-anti-Western". They are Western chauvinists. David__77 Jan 2024 #10
To be pellucidly clear, IDGAF what they think. tritsofme Jan 2024 #14
There are a lot of chauvinists. Igel Jan 2024 #149
Do you have a citation? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2024 #12
Look it up West is Best is definitely PBs Motto erodriguez Jan 2024 #23
BiBi enid602 Jan 2024 #83
Nobody here likes Bibi, the Israeli Trump. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2024 #152
Yes enid602 Jan 2024 #156
Jim Morrison also said it. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #13
Pointing out that the west doesn't own viva la Jan 2024 #66
The OP has gone well beyond "pointing out" in the thread. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #71
There's nothing so instantly controversial viva la Jan 2024 #77
Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #142
does this represent an argument ? stopdiggin Jan 2024 #18
Nah, I had it right the first time. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #7
So all those who live in "the West" who do not agree with your world view are "insane"? madaboutharry Jan 2024 #9
Insane wouldn't be the term I would use. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #15
the blatant mistake is in framing ALL as imperialism stopdiggin Jan 2024 #17
We impose brutal economic embargoes on Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #107
So your answer is stopdiggin Jan 2024 #146
No. My answer is that the situation in the region Voltaire2 Jan 29 #189
and so the Houthis (and Hamas) have a green light stopdiggin Jan 29 #191
Nope. Again the Houthis have a legitimate grievance, not a 'green light'. Voltaire2 Jan 29 #192
Should They Be 'Lobbing Missiles' At Passing Merchant Vessels, Sir? The Magistrate Jan 29 #195
"have tried to eliminate the Shiite population of Yemen." EX500rider Jan 29 #196
Yet another reason... Bettie Jan 29 #198
WHAT !!!??? HUAJIAO Jan 2024 #20
So, I guess you don't know the meaning of "virulent"... malthaussen Jan 2024 #41
Let me be pellucidly clear. Hamas and their sympathizers are the scum of the earth. tritsofme Jan 2024 #3
And what of the civilian population amongst whom Hamas hides and recruits? 0rganism Jan 2024 #44
The world awaits the superior battle plan that prevents fucking TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #57
In the meantime I guess we just sit back and accept that a lot of folks have to get fucked, yeah? 0rganism Jan 2024 #88
Yes, there is no magic wand to waive here and Hamas must go. TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #94
There's no magic wand yet, so there is a mandatory price to be paid for removing Hamas 0rganism Jan 2024 #98
The cost of the alternative is not going to be TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #109
There might be more than one alternative, don't you think? 0rganism Jan 2024 #132
What, exactly, ForgedCrank Jan 2024 #141
generally, I recommend intensive ongoing diplomatic efforts to engage creatively and constructively 0rganism Jan 2024 #155
Professional diplomats have tried for decades TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #159
Well, they'll have to figure it out this time around 0rganism Jan 29 #171
Okay, give your prefered "calibration point". TheKentuckian Jan 29 #178
To ask that question is to misunderstand my comment 0rganism Jan 29 #187
You mention the Athenians thucythucy Jan 29 #202
So you ask Israel to endure more murders rapes? edisdead Jan 2024 #123
Seems to me, we should all work towards finding another way. 0rganism Jan 2024 #137
it isn't murder. It's war. edisdead Jan 2024 #157
War being a subclass of Murder, I'll have to disagree on principle 0rganism Jan 2024 #158
Go ahead and disagree. edisdead Jan 2024 #160
That's Just Silly: 'Murder' Is A Sub-set Of 'Killing' The Magistrate Jan 29 #194
Also I guess we should ignore hours-long response delay by the IDF... brush Jan 2024 #114
Chalk it however you like because it changes nothing TheKentuckian Jan 29 #181
So you just throw up your hands and let the violence go on? brush Jan 29 #183
'the UN holding an election to maybe get the Hamas admin out' The Magistrate Jan 30 #204
It may or may not work. But of my post, that's what you focus on, not the prolonged delay of the IDF response... brush Jan 30 #207
I Was Being Gentle, Sir The Magistrate Jan 30 #209
Exactly. betsuni Jan 30 #210
Like I said, an election may or may not work. I didn't take you for a Netanyahu fan. Do ya really think that... brush Jan 30 #211
So, Let's Look At This A Moment The Magistrate Jan 30 #213
Ok, you're not curious about the delay. I have nothing else to say to you. brush Jan 30 #214
So That's A 'Yes, But Too Embarrassed To Say So Straight Out' The Magistrate Jan 30 #215
Keep up that hardcore attitude, buddy. Go another 75 years of repeating the cycle of violence. brush Jan 30 #216
Do, Please, Explain: What Is 'Hard-Core' About Pointing Up Conspiracist Lunacy? The Magistrate Jan 30 #217
I'm for the Biden/Blinken plan that calls for a two-month long... brush Jan 30 #218
I Certainly Support The Policies Of President Biden In this Matter The Magistrate Jan 30 #219
Stay uncurious about the multi-hour IDF delay. It suits you. brush Jan 30 #220
And You Were Beginning To Show Signs Of Recovery.... The Magistrate Jan 30 #221
Israel can do better. brush Jan 30 #222
So...what happens if there are new elections in Gaza, and Hamas wins in a landslide? tritsofme Jan 30 #206
See post 207. brush Jan 30 #208
Blame Hamas, not "the West." Mossfern Jan 2024 #59
Blame whomever you prefer, just remember to get the word out, 'cause so far the pro-fucking PR has been weak at best 0rganism Jan 2024 #93
These are numbers being supplied by Hamas. nt GuppyGal Jan 2024 #4
That is correct. David__77 Jan 2024 #5
Agree with you 100% Picaro Jan 2024 #11
This will not end well without a change of course. David__77 Jan 2024 #16
the U.S. is not in a diplomatic corner stopdiggin Jan 2024 #19
Your first paragraph is spot on. surfered Jan 2024 #21
Picaro's first paragraph. surfered Jan 2024 #22
Criticizing Lt Calley for machine gunning women and children in a ditch surfered Jan 2024 #25
"All territory will be annexed and the Palestinians will be forced out." That's Netenyahu's stated position, sop Jan 2024 #28
Do you know Hamas stated position? sarisataka Jan 2024 #33
Hamas's position is something are allies should be the opposite of? uponit7771 Jan 2024 #143
I would hope the elimination of Israel sarisataka Jan 2024 #151
That's not even true. tritsofme Jan 2024 #56
What response would you suggest for the countries who support Hamas? perdita9 Jan 2024 #24
You'll never hear any criticism of Iran from that group. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #26
The US overthrew the democratic government of Iran decades ago malaise Jan 2024 #31
Bring it, Malaise. brush Jan 2024 #42
Who Was, Ma'am, Overthrown By Fundamentalist Clerics The Magistrate Jan 2024 #47
Mentioning that makes you an imperialist, obviously. tritsofme Jan 2024 #48
IOKIYNTW: It's Okay If You're Not the West betsuni Jan 2024 #58
One can see why Iran does not like the USA. PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #67
"You forgetting that GWB supported the Taliban as well?" Because it didn't happen? EX500rider Jan 2024 #91
They can not like us in hunter-gatherer type numbers TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #117
So What, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2024 #154
It's actually not, but sure. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #63
Most Iranian people do not support their govt JI7 Jan 2024 #111
The response that has worked for a multitude of countries India here recently uponit7771 Jan 2024 #144
Malaise, you rock! I totally agree w/your post. jrthin Jan 2024 #27
We who live it malaise Jan 2024 #29
So very true. jrthin Jan 2024 #36
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If the world were a kind and just place. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #133
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter malaise Jan 2024 #34
What would you call those who specifically target civilians sarisataka Jan 2024 #38
You know SOMETHING will always justify such actions. TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #62
Rec. Let the racist, rapist terrorists and their supporters be known. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #134
The implication is pretty clear. That person is implying Hamas are freedom fighters, and I say bullshit to that. To JohnSJ Jan 29 #184
Hamas is ForgedCrank Jan 2024 #45
Do you consider Hamas to be "freedom fighters"? Was 10/7 justified resistance? tritsofme Jan 2024 #46
It sure does sound like it !! nt GuppyGal Jan 2024 #69
Or Bin Laden, for that matter. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #80
Rec... So far you get Cha Jan 29 #182
It was really more of a rhetorical question, I think we all know the answer is pellucidly clear. tritsofme Jan 29 #190
No response speaks volumes. JohnSJ Jan 29 #185
Hamas is like Mandela? TwilightZone Jan 2024 #49
Good gravy. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #52
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"Pro-Hamas" or "Pro-Palestine" just means "Racist" at this point. They want Jews exterminated. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #55
It was settled for me a while ago. BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #64
I firmly reject this comparison LetMyPeopleVote Jan 29 #199
Anyone calling Mandela a terrorist then was wrong, anyone calling Hamas freedom fighters now is wrong. betsuni Jan 29 #200
let me make this pellucidly clear JustAnotherGen Jan 30 #212
It was Rumsfeld who posed the strategic question of the War on Terror... surfered Jan 2024 #32
The real,question for humaniy is malaise Jan 2024 #37
The Real Terrorists, Ma'am The Magistrate Jan 2024 #50
All correct Warpy Jan 2024 #35
I'm with you. It's up to 30,000 now v the 1,200 killed on Oct. 7? That's unjustifiable. brush Jan 2024 #39
maybe you should complain a bit more about the instigators of this cycle lapfog_1 Jan 29 #177
Oh please. WWll involed many countries on both sides killing millions... brush Jan 29 #179
This seems to be one topic that even on DU it is not possible to have an intelligent and civil debate. flashman13 Jan 2024 #40
When one side of the argument equates Hamas with Nelson Mendela... TwilightZone Jan 2024 #60
Yes there is; Hell. Or whatever's worse. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #61
I rest my case. flashman13 Jan 2024 #65
You're not wrong. TwilightZone Jan 2024 #153
Someone is equating the Gang Rapist Butchers of HAMAS Cha Jan 2024 #168
Nelson Mandela was described as a terrorist by Hugh ranking members of Western governments malaise Jan 29 #188
yup Skittles Jan 2024 #165
I am thankful Biden is disregarding the extremist fringes on this issue. nt LexVegas Jan 2024 #43
I'm still voting for Pres. Biden and VP Harris. Lovie777 Jan 2024 #51
Who said they weren't voting for Biden here? Butterflylady Jan 2024 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #145
There are only two sides in this war; Terrorists, and those who oppose them. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #53
Is this fanaticism? Duncan Grant Jan 2024 #106
Good, good! You see the problem. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #112
Some people need to take a chill pill. Aussie105 Jan 2024 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #72
I am. Aussie105 Jan 2024 #74
What you are seeing from Israel is not Western imperialism. Straw Man Jan 2024 #70
"Never again!" Aussie105 Jan 2024 #73
Correction. Straw Man Jan 2024 #78
THIS malaise Jan 2024 #82
But I wouldn't call it "imperialism." Straw Man Jan 30 #205
Also, Sir, Quite One-Sided The Magistrate Jan 30 #223
There are a great many that are vexed into a lather TheKentuckian Jan 2024 #76
Well this has certainly turned into a shit show, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2024 #75
Not so much a shit show . . . Aussie105 Jan 2024 #81
Well, I consider it a shit show, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2024 #84
Oh, give the Israelies some credit DBoon Jan 2024 #86
You can't drop terrorists into Israel nocoincidences Jan 2024 #87
You misspelled "freedom fighters" BannonsLiver Jan 2024 #90
You are so right! nocoincidences Jan 2024 #92
A response is one thing. Butterflylady Jan 2024 #100
Starving a population of two million Big Blue Marble Jan 2024 #121
Good, we'll prosecute Hamas for war crimes when their war's over. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #124
Hamas committed war crimes on Oct 7th. Big Blue Marble Jan 2024 #126
So, Hamas and their Palestinian supporters DO deserve a reaction deserving of war crimes? Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #129
So Israel should have bombed nocoincidences Jan 2024 #138
That is such bullshit TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #161
The world knows that Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza: Big Blue Marble Jan 29 #174
" The world knows that Israel has committed war crimes in Gaza" Western countries disagree EX500rider Jan 29 #175
To help you clarify your thinking: Aussie105 Jan 2024 #89
For anyone picking #3, you still have a hard question to answer NickB79 Jan 2024 #95
You picked option 1! Aussie105 Jan 2024 #99
Solution is simple: Eradication. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #101
Sure does suck to suck, eh? 0rganism Jan 2024 #110
That's the war Hamas and their supporters want, mate. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #113
Wow, that's complete nonsense "mate" 0rganism Jan 2024 #147
What Hamas "wants" is eradication of Jews. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #150
Then Netanyahu is playing right into their hands through journaled atrocities and negligible PR 0rganism Jan 2024 #163
Okay, I'll bite. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #167
Thanks for the conversation, we can continue later 0rganism Jan 29 #173
I picked no such thing NickB79 Jan 2024 #104
Fortunately there exist skilled professionals who could work on answering such questions 0rganism Jan 2024 #103
You have faith diplomats will convince Hamas to revoke their charter? NickB79 Jan 2024 #108
I have more faith in diplomacy than slaughter 0rganism Jan 2024 #116
What evolutionary leaps do you think have occurred in less than a single lifetime TheKentuckian Jan 29 #180
Technology comes to mind 0rganism Jan 29 #186
And it's the only one that makes sense malaise Jan 2024 #118
I keep reading about how Hamas wants to complete destroy Israel and the Jewish people. Butterflylady Jan 2024 #115
On Oct 6, no Israeli seriously believed Hamas could kill 1200 of its people NickB79 Jan 2024 #119
What makes you think that? TexasDem69 Jan 2024 #162
Anti-Western contrarianism often leads to illiberalism Sympthsical Jan 2024 #96
Anti-Westies are called "Tankies" or "Werhraboos". Soviets or Nazis respectively. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #97
Nope. Neo-stalinists are 'tankies', but sure toss everyone opposed to our global military hegemony Voltaire2 Jan 29 #193
+10000000 betsuni Jan 2024 #169
Damn! That's Good The Magistrate Jan 31 #224
I am taking a 3rd way. I f'ing hate Hamas AND JCMach1 Jan 2024 #102
The majority of Israel's citizens are non-western! LeftInTX Jan 2024 #105
Shows how dangerous oversimplifications can be. Aussie105 Jan 2024 #127
Hamas Health Ministry says 26,422 people Arazi Jan 2024 #120
25k civilian deaths is a damn fine number for a war. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #122
The actual number is probably 10-15k civilians Arazi Jan 2024 #128
Please, they're not Pro-Pal. They're HAMAS puppets. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #130
"down to 17,000" Skittles Jan 2024 #164
"almost 30,000" Arazi Jan 2024 #166
The people in Iran don't support their terrorist supporting Govt, so why do you ? JI7 Jan 2024 #125
I second that about Muslim colonialists! LeftInTX Jan 2024 #148
Imperialism, colonialism, slavery, wars as uniquely Western racism things is useful for Both Sides propaganda. betsuni Jan 29 #172
However claudette Jan 2024 #131
No, the West does not own the planet Kennah Jan 2024 #135
The answer to your question is "Yes" without reservation. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #136
Seems to be exactly what they would prefer. Tankies are going to be tankies, no matter the decade. tritsofme Jan 2024 #139
Fucking tankies. Screwing world politics for damn near a whole century now. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jan 2024 #140
DURec leftstreet Jan 2024 #170
Post removed Post removed Jan 29 #176
Wow this grave dancing thread is still going! BannonsLiver Jan 29 #197
As a productive discussion, it never really got off the ground. Aussie105 Jan 29 #201
Which is why these discussions were designated to the Israel Palestinian group for JohnSJ Jan 29 #203
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