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Bernardo de La Paz

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18. Love the fetus, hate the child

Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:57 PM

Feb 21

Love the fetus because doing so advances the fortunes of rich people who like extreme conservatives.

Hate the child because it is not their extended family's child and not their friends' child. They think this because abortions are not visible. Very few people know when a woman has an abortion.

They moralize that unwanted pregnancies are a moral failing and the child should be punished with a lifetime of missed opportunities.

They don't think it through to realize that a lifetime of harsh conditions is worse than a pre-conscious termination is not terminating a conscious person, regardless of the rhetoric. It is another case of absolutism trumping the reality of shades of gray.

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How does a clump of cells have more rights than I do? [View all] onecaliberal Feb 21 OP

Yes, it does. CrispyQ Feb 21 #1

Because MOMFUDSKI Feb 21 #2

No Jilly_in_VA Feb 21 #14

Because JoseBalow Feb 21 #21

Them thinking they speak for god is kind of the heart of it. paleotn Feb 21 #29

Yes"rights" are attached to things by people with authority to do so Model35mech Feb 21 #50

Don't tease! dpibel Feb 22 #56

I'm saying the argument isn't about biology Model35mech Feb 22 #58

You aren't classified as a person? ripcord Feb 21 #3

You might need to be more specific in stating your question... SalviaBlue Feb 21 #7

Not with full rights in this country Hope22 Feb 21 #8

I'm female. Apparently as such I'm not even 3/5 of a person. .... Hekate Feb 21 #15

Yep. To give personhood to a fertilized egg Bettie Feb 21 #52

According to the Alabamadingdong supremes, no. paleotn Feb 21 #30

"Alabamadingdongs" -- small chuckle -- that's good Hekate Feb 22 #57

No she's not. stage left Feb 21 #38

Liberal men are not the problem UniqueUserName Feb 22 #59

I never said they were stage left Feb 23 #60

My question is will they be counted in the next census? AbnerBunny Feb 21 #4

There's an estimated 1.5 MILLION in freezers across the US. jmbar2 Feb 21 #11

Not funny Rebl2 Feb 21 #43

Good point, AbnerBunny, but how will we know whether they're Democrats or Republicans? TheRickles Feb 21 #17

Easy. Like kittens, are their eyes open? FailureToCommunicate Feb 21 #31

Really how stupid! Tree Lady Feb 21 #25

Why not? It's only logical. paleotn Feb 21 #32

I'm with you! Hope22 Feb 21 #5

It's a stupid as hell decision, but what rights do you think it has that you don't have? onenote Feb 21 #6

It has the right to kill her Hope22 Feb 21 #10

The lack of understanding is depressing redqueen Feb 21 #12

Ain't that the damn truth. paleotn Feb 21 #34

Amazing the lengths some will go to, to dominate women. calimary Feb 21 #37

The women who fought for our rights would be very pi$$ed Hope22 Feb 21 #49

It has the right to kill me, and in half the states in this country, docs are afraid to intervene Hekate Feb 21 #20

Ummm, because pregnancy in and of itself is one of the most dangerous things a woman can do paleotn Feb 21 #33

Seriously, dude? stage left Feb 21 #40

I'm sad stage left Feb 21 #42

So can you now use them as dependents on AL taxes? n/t tinymontgomery Feb 21 #9

Of course Rebl2 Feb 21 #41

As I understand from another post stage left Feb 21 #44

Okay Rebl2 Feb 21 #53

I will always take your side Marthe48 Feb 21 #13

How does a corpse have more rights than a young woman does? Warpy Feb 21 #16

I don't have much optimism left. Slavery, by whatever name, lasted for centuries. Female subjugation... Hekate Feb 21 #22

One word. Control. paleotn Feb 21 #35

Love the fetus, hate the child Bernardo de La Paz Feb 21 #18

These fundies like to make crap up, especially if it is useful to gain more power. n/t Liberal In Texas Feb 21 #19

In the lawsuit they called them "extrauterine children". 58Sunliner Feb 21 #23

Post removed Post removed Feb 21 #24

Ladies, and men, everyone, remember what party did this come election day in Nov. brush Feb 21 #26

Because.... MuseRider Feb 21 #27

Because of fucking religion. Sky Jewels Feb 21 #28

With many religion is their excuse for their behavior. StarryNite Feb 21 #48

Yet, once those cells are born, they are moochers/deadbeats on society, underserving of medical care, nutrition, housin keithbvadu2 Feb 21 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Feb 21 #39

I hope stage left Feb 21 #45

now texas is arguing a fetus isnt a baby and doesnt have rights keithbvadu2 Feb 21 #46

All Liberal men, stage left Feb 21 #47

Damn straight!!! Speak UP! Make Some NOISE!!! calimary Feb 21 #51

Dead people have more rights than a live woman in this fked-up KKKuntry OMGWTF Feb 21 #54

No Rebl2 Feb 21 #55