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Cyrano

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Wed Mar 6, 2024, 02:22 PM Mar 6

How does a civllzed country go bugshit insane? [View all]

Many who were born in the 20th Century wondered this for years regarding one of Europe's most advanced countries.

Germany was not only socially advanced, but was perhaps one of the most scientifically advanced countries in Europe. My guess is that they led much of the world in citizens who were physicists, mathematicians, and every other branch of science.

Yet, by the 1930's and 1940's, they had turned into the most barbaric country in the world.

I was born at a time when learning history was still respected and permitted. I spent many years wondering what had happened to turn an educated country into such a bestial threat to the entire world.

I don't wonder anymore. America, one of the most highly educated, scientifically oriented, and creator of so much of the arts, could turn into a possible new and improved form of cruelty and self-destruction. How did this happen? The answer is, it was always there. All it needed was a match to ignite the ugliness of humanity that has always existed just below the surface.

Everyone here has watched that happen. Everyone here has seen a madman take control of the levers of power and abuse them. And now, everyone here is watching to see if this madman will, once again, be put into power by a minority of Americans.

Were this to happen, 20th Century Germany may be made to look somewhat benign. Think that can't come to be? I hope that history proves you right and that my opinions are treated as a false alarm.

Nonetheless, keep your passport up to date. And prepare yourself for total hell on Earth if He wins or steals the presidency

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I'm so glad I left and my trip back in April will be my last until after the election. róisín_dubh Mar 6 #1
The RW Christians bought the Republican Party get the red out Mar 6 #35
The Abrahamic religions are especially anti-women. LastDemocratInSC Mar 6 #37
To me it boils down to hatred and fear of women. With the RW in power, they are not shamed for it but proud. efhmc Mar 6 #2
Germany was in tough shape after WWI, which they had lost badly. Ocelot II Mar 6 #3
Interesting how quickly so many in a country in bad shape, and Cyrano Mar 6 #5
It does seem that way. Ocelot II Mar 6 #11
The country doesn't have to be in bad shape as long as enough people believe that it is. Biophilic Mar 6 #28
Define civilized lindysalsagal Mar 6 #4
Carl Sagan believed that humanity is currently in its adolescence. Cyrano Mar 6 #9
The best of us may be young adults, cynical_idealist Mar 6 #25
The veneer of civilization Alice Kramden Mar 6 #30
By allowing propaganda outlets to pose as legitimate news organizations. Funtatlaguy Mar 6 #6
It watches Fox news for 30 years. Turbineguy Mar 6 #7
Don't forget Rush Limbaugh's vile contribution. Paladin Mar 6 #34
This! is the real problem: right wing media outlets. jrthin Mar 6 #36
If their ideas are so good Turbineguy Mar 8 #39
They lie so much BECAUSE their ideas are no good. nt jrthin Mar 8 #40
As a PoliSci undergrad I always knew and questioned this.. cilla4progress Mar 6 #8
Fox 'news' mzmolly Mar 6 #10
Fox "news" wouldn't exist if it' didn't have a receptive audience. Cyrano Mar 6 #13
you are 100% correct. Not that you needed me to say it. NT Tickle Mar 6 #16
The fact that they masquerade as news mzmolly Mar 6 #17
Just a tiny percentage of adults watch Fox News Kaleva Mar 6 #22
I'd be interested in your source. mzmolly Mar 6 #24
I stopped going to my gym Mossfern Mar 6 #31
my planet fitness here in deep red east texas prodigitalson Mar 6 #33
Right? We have more information at our fingertips than ever before and yet 40% of the country are wet brains.nt GuppyGal Mar 6 #12
Too bad there's no vaccination for it. Do you think they'd take it? Cyrano Mar 6 #14
People look for info that reinforces their world view Kaleva Mar 6 #21
By never having been civilized in the first place. Act_of_Reparation Mar 6 #15
No civilized country area51 Mar 6 #18
Bring educated, you should know humans aren't rational creatures. Kaleva Mar 6 #19
40 years of Reaganomics pfitz59 Mar 6 #20
"Keep your passport up to date" ? GenThePerservering Mar 6 #23
Shitty public school systems decimated by NCLB. maveric Mar 6 #26
We had help. Russian help. Yes it was there, they exploited it. n/t TygrBright Mar 6 #27
There's this book I am reading, for the third time... Dan Mar 6 #29
yeah I always wondered how Nazi Germany happened too prodigitalson Mar 6 #32
Because the sad truth is that "civilization" is a very thin veneer over human nature. Jedi Guy Mar 6 #38
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