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SocialDemocrat61

(613 posts) Fri Apr 12, 2024, 09:58 AM Apr 12

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I saw this excerpt on an X post. Please read and go to my comments below.
I am floored that someone who claims to be a liberal/progressive would be OK with a Trump victory. It's an incredibly flawed strategy.
First, when Democrats lose elections to republicans, they tend to go more right or moderate in the next election. Second, it in no way punishes Biden or Democrats. It punishes ordinary people who will have their rights taken away.
What really annoys me is the smug look she has on her face. And this is something I've seen a lot of on social media of late. Many, not all, of these people who declare Biden and democrats are just as evil as Trump and republicans are privileged white people who will suffer little or no consequences when republicans win elections.
I don't know how to fight this, but an open to ideas.

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This is concerning [View all] SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 OP

She's naive. OLDMDDEM Apr 12 #1

I was naive at her age too, shame on all of us who don't remember youth. Arthur_Frain Apr 12 #27

I agree. I was naive at that age also. OLDMDDEM Apr 12 #30

I was. FoxNewsSucks Apr 12 #62

I was extremely naive, sheltered, didn't know anything. The difference was that I knew it. betsuni Apr 13 #184

Not just naive but stupidly naive. overleft Apr 12 #35

Smugly stupidly naive. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 12 #68

"Biden's lack of abortion protection?" Yep, she's pretty stupid William Seger Apr 12 #93

"I'm going hold my breath until I turn BLUE!" Ligyron Apr 12 #106

I was naive, but never thought of "punishing a political party" LeftInTX Apr 12 #46

There is a difference between benign idiots and malignant idiots. Beastly Boy Apr 12 #75

I was somewhat Rebl2 Apr 12 #80

That's the polite way of saying she stupid Conjuay Apr 12 #81

Unlike some here, I was not naive at that age csziggy Apr 12 #114

Me either, in general. The "60's". 1968. In a big city like mine if you paid any attention... electric_blue68 Apr 12 #122

Or doesnt exist, russian propaganda probably. Eliot Rosewater Apr 12 #153

A total and complete malaise Apr 12 #2

Kirsten Mansel is an idiot who doesn't seem to recall all those protested by not voting for Hillary Clinton ... marble falls Apr 12 #3

She would have been 15 at the time OnlinePoker Apr 12 #100

Other than she couldn't vote what changed in my argument? Asses who think like her DID give us TFG, right? marble falls Apr 12 #152

She's not a liberal she's an idiot. Biophilic Apr 12 #4

Totally agree. She thinks shes the smartest person in the room. Lochloosa Apr 12 #7

Well, she considers herself a liberal TexasBushwhacker Apr 12 #36

She better avoid getting pregnant untill she is ready to be a mom. She'll find out real quick just how dumb she is now. usaf-vet Apr 12 #49

And have a perfect pregnancy with no complications that require medical intervention. cbabe Apr 12 #58

Absolutely !! usaf-vet Apr 12 #60

Lessons would indeed be learned. tanyev Apr 12 #5

Ask young people which of TWO alternative futures they want! usonian Apr 12 #6

Excellent post mountain grammy Apr 12 #89

Thank you. I repost it now and then for visibility. usonian Apr 12 #92

I'm not worried about Kirsten's vote Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #8

The problem is there are many other people SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #11

And they are outnumbered 2 to 1 by young voters who support Biden. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #18

I hope you're right SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #22

I agree with you here. bluestarone Apr 12 #37

Outnumbered 2 to 1 isn't good enough Silent3 Apr 12 #144

Phew!!!!!!! Thank God we can relax, since everything will be OK! FoxNewsSucks Apr 12 #167

Worrying distracts from the important work ahead. Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #169

It's made up, it doesn't influence me, and probably doesn't influence FoxNewsSucks Apr 12 #173

Are they though????? Farmer-Rick Apr 12 #84

We ignore this at our own risk SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #120

I think it's. a quote from a USAToday article struggle4progress Apr 12 #156

As my South African friend says, FeelingBlue Apr 12 #9

Either this is an "influencer" article megapuzzler Apr 12 #10

It still amazes me... SergeStorms Apr 12 #70

It's the fault of spellcheck. It's INFLUENZA, not influencer. n/t usonian Apr 12 #78

If she was a liberal, she would be active in the Democratic party Bluethroughu Apr 12 #12

She's pretty much a smug, self-centered publicity hound. patphil Apr 12 #13

Exactly. LisaM Apr 12 #79

When I first came to DU, I was a lot edgier. I've calmed down in my old age. patphil Apr 12 #115

I feel the same way - age seems to do that. But also watching a Trump presidency does that - TBF Apr 12 #118

Does this woman think the GOP will protect women's Reproductive health or reduce student riversedge Apr 12 #14

I wouldn't worry about her. Real liberals aren't this fucking stupid. GoodRaisin Apr 12 #15

Young & new voters think they only need to vote once & change should happen within a few years. CrispyQ Apr 12 #16

A reminder that Susan Sarandon thought electing Trump would bring about a socialist resurgence... brooklynite Apr 12 #17

Is she even a real person? getagrip_already Apr 12 #19

And how did 2016 turn out? sarisataka Apr 12 #23

She's real. carpetbagger Apr 12 #99

Even though this particular person might not be real (unlikely from what another poster said)... Silent3 Apr 12 #147

Why didn't you include a link to the original article? Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #20

Because I only saw this screen grab SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #24

then consider it utter horseshit Voltaire2 Apr 12 #64

It's just meant to be an example SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #72

So it may be deliberate misinformation Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #119

That's not the point SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #121

The point is there is no evidence to support your point Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #129

Then you're free to ignore the problem SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #130

I don't see young voters supporting Dems 2 to 1 over the GOP as a problem Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #136

Ok SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #137

Who said there is *nothing* to worry about? Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #139

In any election it's best to not be complacent about anything SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #140

So many pixels wasted saying a whole lot of nothing Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #143

You can do whatever you like SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #160

Who said anything about doing nothing? Fiendish Thingy Apr 12 #161

Good SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #162

Another reason to not post the link is to deny her clicks. intheflow Apr 12 #117

Once a dictator takes power only bloodshed will remove them. nt Hotler Apr 12 #21

Seeking media attention, hoping threats from others like her will spur immediate change in current US policy, or Freethinker65 Apr 12 #25

1 and 3 oasis Apr 12 #145

Is she a real person? Takket Apr 12 #26

Link to original article- sarisataka Apr 12 #28

The actual original article is from the "Commercial Appeal" behind a paywall. honest.abe Apr 12 #32

The original article was about Tennessee voters. Yahoo picked it up and it went from there. shrike3 Apr 12 #59

Not too impressive that after a day, they still have a generic "xxx" picture caption muriel_volestrangler Apr 12 #157

Level 5 stupidity. onecaliberal Apr 12 #29

Whoopie MorbidButterflyTat Apr 12 #31

Reminds me of 2016. We can't just ignore this or call her stupid. honest.abe Apr 12 #33

It is deja vu sarisataka Apr 12 #42

How? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 12 #51

2016 when middle aged white men in midwest swing state broke for Trump? Voltaire2 Apr 12 #73

Yeah, that story ran yesterday. They went around and talked to students on a campus in Tennessee. shrike3 Apr 12 #34

"Too many strikes against him." Kid Berwyn Apr 12 #38

What rock did this woman.crawl out from? ProudMNDemocrat Apr 12 #39

Well, it proves one thing: piddyprints Apr 12 #40

Teaching the Democratic Party a lesson. Isn't that what some BoBs tried in the '16 election? elocs Apr 12 #41

Could we please have an interview with one nevergiveup Apr 12 #43

Kirsten if I were you I would avoid any activity that might lead to a unwanted pregnancy. You think Biden is a problem.. usaf-vet Apr 12 #44

How is she a college student ? JI7 Apr 12 #45

Take this seriously. DJ Synikus Makisimus Apr 12 #47

Democrats have never controlled the legislative process. It would require a super-majority in the senate LeftInTX Apr 12 #57

I'll bring up legislative procedure in the next conversations ... DJ Synikus Makisimus Apr 12 #102

Also, I don't believe vetos apply to budget bills. However, voting and reproductive rights are not part of budget bills LeftInTX Apr 12 #123

Young democrats/liberals are neither stupid nor idiotic LearnedHand Apr 12 #48

Who said she was a democrat? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #55

Thank you. Think. Again. Apr 12 #87

She's 23, and studying medicine. She has a great chance of being middle class or rich muriel_volestrangler Apr 12 #131

We must reach folks like this with compassion. SYFROYH Apr 12 #50

We are blindly walking a path sarisataka Apr 12 #54

Might work for some SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #56

It's true. We don't ever get all the votes. SYFROYH Apr 12 #95

I am guessing here but, probably not an 'A' student. Prairie_Seagull Apr 12 #52

She's studying medicine, which normally requires good grades muriel_volestrangler Apr 12 #135

Ben Carson was a successful neuro-surgeon. meadowlander Apr 12 #150

Geezus, how do Republicans not get blamed for all that? AND... ananda Apr 12 #53

Bad things about Democrats. Kingofalldems Apr 12 #61

Classic "Why don't/didn't Democrats stop (bad thing)?" betsuni Apr 12 #148

And it is still up. Kingofalldems Apr 12 #154

I meant the students quoted in the article. betsuni Apr 13 #186

Fake, this is manufactured propaganda IbogaProject Apr 12 #63

I'm suspecting that, too. Any liberal her age knows how courts & government work. This piece is ancianita Apr 12 #112

I hope she looks good in red... Happy Hoosier Apr 12 #65

Set up, to rouse emotions. jaxexpat Apr 12 #66

Where was she during the Trump years? Baitball Blogger Apr 12 #67

There are 20 previously "republican leaning" women .... rubbersole Apr 12 #69

Weaponized ignorane Mz Pip Apr 12 #71

In any sample of humanity, there will be idiots. NNadir Apr 12 #74

These people often come from very privileged backgrounds. Ace Rothstein Apr 12 #76

Are you sure she is real, this is the kind of thing the Russians put out, pretending Bev54 Apr 12 #77

Yeah, apparently this is the latest rightwing talking point. Think. Again. Apr 12 #82

It really does seem like she's a right wing troll posing as liberal ColinC Apr 12 #85

The rightwing is pushing this trope in an attempt... Think. Again. Apr 12 #90

Worst case scenario is there will be a statistically significant number of them who don't vote ColinC Apr 12 #113

Also I'm in complete agreement with those who say people who legitimately think like this shouldn't be ignored ColinC Apr 12 #125

"Failed to protect reproductive rights and wipe out student loans?!" ColinC Apr 12 #83

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--because I was not a socialist. TeamProg Apr 12 #86

Besides knowing this quote I think I had it as a button in the late '60s. electric_blue68 Apr 12 #124

It makes for a great quote but Pastor Martin Niemller being there in real time leads me to think that he was TeamProg Apr 12 #126

I wonder if someone didn't just take a picture of a kid off the internet and add text. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 12 #88

Yep, get the youth vote and the Democrats mad at each other. Think. Again. Apr 12 #91

smirk tells it marti Apr 12 #94

I hope she'll think the loss of democracy is worth it. zanana1 Apr 12 #96

She doesn't Delphinus Apr 12 #97

Is she counting strikes against the other candidates? pandr32 Apr 12 #98

9/11 happened because of people like Kristen Mansel Renew Deal Apr 12 #101

An ignoramus should be ignored. oasis Apr 12 #103

People like her think it's a just big game. The "it can't really happen here" attitude. hadEnuf Apr 12 #104

It's classic Roger Stone rat-f*&#ing maxrandb Apr 12 #105

When I first seen this yesterday KS Toronado Apr 12 #107

She was picked because she is an outlier, or outliar. twodogsbarking Apr 12 #108

Yep, it's all part of an underlying narrative to conquer and divide the left. Think. Again. Apr 12 #132

Your DU name says it. twodogsbarking Apr 12 #133

Shallow & ignorant comment. onetexan Apr 12 #109

Wouldn't be surprised if she was paid for that oldmanlynn Apr 12 #110

Wish I had the proof that she is a RW stooge Fla Dem Apr 12 #111

Wow.... markbark Apr 12 #116

Probably shouldn't say this BlueKota Apr 12 #127

Dollars to donuts this is a fake. Sogo Apr 12 #128

I agree I also thought it was a fake meme made by an repuke source or a russian troll. kimbutgar Apr 12 #134

The media is highlighting the youth protest vote. returnee Apr 12 #138

She's Dangerously Unobservant. nt Cha Apr 12 #141

How the hell JustAnotherGen Apr 12 #142

Just spent 2 hours searching the internet for her KS Toronado Apr 12 #146

Just saved and blew the picture up 700X KS Toronado Apr 12 #149

"Kirsten seems to be a boys name" - there's confusion over her name muriel_volestrangler Apr 12 #155

I couldn't find the tiger statue with your link KS Toronado Apr 12 #163

it's about halfway down the page, at "Tigers Around Town" muriel_volestrangler Apr 12 #165

One in that picture has the names of books as it's stripes, why I missed it the 1st time. KS Toronado Apr 12 #178

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueKota Apr 12 #159

I bet her family's rich. RandySF Apr 12 #151

I'm going with middle class. betsuni Apr 12 #164

She's a short sighted idiot. beaglelover Apr 12 #158

The talking points of interviewed students in the article (ha, I typed stupidents first): betsuni Apr 12 #166

I forgot to say that VP Harris and most diverse admin. ever are invisible. As if Biden's all alone in the WH betsuni Apr 13 #180

She's angry. QuickPop Apr 12 #168

welcome to du mdmc Apr 12 #171

She's Dangerously Unobservant and needs to Wake UP and Smell Reality. Cha Apr 12 #174

To be frank, I don't believe her reasons/story. nt BootinUp Apr 12 #170

Forgive me, because I didn't read every response before Grown2Hate Apr 12 #172

Then feel free to ignore SocialDemocrat61 Apr 12 #175

That's not what I'm saying or advocating. Grown2Hate Apr 12 #176

If you don't see, then you're free to ignore SocialDemocrat61 Apr 13 #182

So her strategy is to give power to those who are determined to destroy reproductive rights Martin Eden Apr 12 #177

Interesting observation that the one's expressing concern and telling "us" to take it seriously seem JohnSJ Apr 12 #179

Low post count? False flag? SocialDemocrat61 Apr 13 #183

"She's mad Biden and the Democrats have failed to protect reproductive rights or wipe out student loans." LudwigPastorius Apr 13 #181

No link, no sourcing. Propaganda gulliver Apr 13 #185

Here's a link SocialDemocrat61 Apr 13 #187

Lol! gulliver Apr 13 #188