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freshwest

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13. I suspect their push for global etc. comes from this. Anyone unwilling to change, won't make it.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 02:58 AM
Feb 2013

We are now competing with other humans directly for limited resources, maybe because they know we have to find our way in a different ecosystem. But droughts and ice ages and other events have conspired to make people move and have conflicts forever. The natives of north America migrated due to annual weather to survive.

They didn't hold onto any one place, as technologically advanced and crowded peoples of the eastern hemisphere did, except in a few locations - mainly in the empires surrounding the Gulf of Mexico and Carribean.

This is not a new thing, even in human history, not all written history, but still. And those who have knowledge of the climate and trends, those who are the highly educated and more stable in economic position, compile the data. There is nothing wrong with them doing so and seeking ways to survive. Those caught up in the petty passions of the day will complain and suffer when things get tight. But I suggest it will be more gradual and not as cataclysmic as the entertainment industry tells us to waste our time and keep us diverted.

Nothing to prove what I say, just a few thoughts on how this is working out. There is still no reason to give up on what we can do to mitigate the effects of large social changes individually and at our highest level. JMHO.

Which one is Orwellian? [View all] patrice Feb 2013 OP
Hum! If 'Responsible collaborative empirical analysis and evaluation' is applied before it goes down freshwest Feb 2013 #1
Good point. But I am assuming that that is part of our responsibility, i.e. to create the political patrice Feb 2013 #2
OMGawd, I'm not ready for that on an empty tummy. But in passing, and I will try to work on it; freshwest Feb 2013 #4
BTW, did you see the World drought projection maps posted here earlier this week? patrice Feb 2013 #3
TPTB aren't ignoring it. Check their actions to see what's up. freshwest Feb 2013 #5
My guess is about everything thing we see on an international scale IS about those drought maps patrice Feb 2013 #12
I suspect their push for global etc. comes from this. Anyone unwilling to change, won't make it. freshwest Feb 2013 #13
Thank you, freshwest! You help me get balance. It's so hard to describe how I'm not patrice Feb 2013 #14
neither BainsBane Feb 2013 #6
If Orwell wasn't writing about something extracted from human experience, inferred like lots of patrice Feb 2013 #8
no, it means I see no relation BainsBane Feb 2013 #9
That's okay, nevermind. nt patrice Feb 2013 #11
(IMO) BainsBane is correct Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #15
You have a right to IMO & so do I that is unless I am an unperson & you are a fascist. FOUR fingers! patrice Feb 2013 #19
So, you're only for collaboration that agrees with you? Why is that NOT fascism? Please tell me. nt patrice Feb 2013 #20
. Motown_Johnny Feb 2013 #21
The traits that you quote, in bold type above, can also be the same traits of ANY patrice Feb 2013 #25
False dichotomy. You'll get a lot of passes on this I think. Glassunion Feb 2013 #7
Facts always are what they are or they would not be facts. They can, however, be viewed from patrice Feb 2013 #10
I think you increasingly like to grab words, redefine them, and operate from the perspective TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #16
Make of it what you will. & Accord to me the same right to make of it all what I will. FOUR fingers. patrice Feb 2013 #17
And if you can't do that, perhaps you should consider explaining why your aren't a fascist. nt patrice Feb 2013 #18
1. Fascist doesn't mean failure to accept random definitions knitted out of thin air and pretending TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #22
We agree about more than you realize, except for disrespect, the hallmark of fascism. FOUR fingers. patrice Feb 2013 #24
This thread and another come to mind with this same word. TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #26
Neither. nt bemildred Feb 2013 #23
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