General Discussion

Last edited Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: For crying out loud, this is an old joke that's been going around for ages...get a grip. You want to express your opinion, do so in the thread...don't turn to the jury to do the job for you.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I don't think it is sexism to use humor to point out sexism. I think that's called satire. But I'm just a high school English teacher, so what do I know. And for the record, thanks for the alert because I got a laugh out of this post and wouldn't have seen it but for the alert.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: This statement is related to a quote from Gloria Steinnem, though edited. It relates to women's liberation. I see no sexism in it.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: The OP is a direct quote from Florynce Kennedy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florynce_Kennedy The Alerter is a Troll. The Troll is one of the men who camps out in META (their real home is the Conservative Cave) and likely has over 25K posts and their only purpose is to divide the women among themselves and the women from the men. They are succeeding because they have so many gunners and cavers in their circle jerk of hate. The women are clearly leaving DU. Soon all that will be left are gunners, haters, teabaggers, and cavers. Have a good time changing each other's diapers.
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Response to 1:
So apparently, sexist jokes directed towards men are completely acceptable as long as some find them to be humorous. I need to get a grip, because it offends me. How often has this exact logic been used against women who found misogynistic "jokes" offensive? Often. Yes, very often indeed. Because I am male though... this is acceptable?

Response to 2:
I am well aware of what satire is. I'm no high school English teacher - but I am an English major at a pretty decent University. The fact that you laughed out loud at this... does not make it acceptable under any circumstances. The humor is entirely debatable, deliberately offensive - and representative of a double standard that exists far too commonly within our culture.

Response to 4:
There seems to be some confusion about who this quote came from. Regardless of who it came from, it's still sexist.

Response to 6:
I don't know who you are. It now occurs to me that I have, at some point, posted in meta. Does this have anything to do with the subject at hand? You can also note that I have less than 2,000 posts - and have been here for years... If you can produce some evidence to substantiate your accusations of me being a troll (this would be difficult, as none exists) I would be very interested in seeing it.


Overall, I find this thread, many of the responses to it - and the overwhelming response to my alert, to very clearly indicate that there are several people here who find sexism directed against men acceptable and even funny. Well, I don't find it amusing, progressive, clever, or even remotely factual. I am a male, I am very offended by this thread. I'd ask you to examine how you would feel were a man to begin a thread like this, suggesting that "If women could (insert action)" it would be a sacrament....

I am well aware of the history of oppression directed against women, primarily by men. I am well aware of the misogyny that is so frequent among numerous men of this age. It is not, however, by any means one-sided. If we are to truly be progressive, to truly represent the ideas of equality and justice, then this is one issue that I would hope would find some unity of purpose among a group of intelligent progressives.

As a man, I support real feminism. By this I mean that I support the idea that we should all be entitled to the same rights, to equal pay, to equal representation, to justice. I will, however, call out sexism when I see it regardless of who it is directed against, and regardless of who is guilty of it.

If I am angry, if this one touched a nerve, it's because I am well aware of the double standard that suggests it's okay for one group to do something that they have come down very hard on another group for doing. That's all I have to say.