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freshwest

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109. The communication is there. Get on the OFA email list and contact your representatives regularly.
Fri Mar 29, 2013, 08:18 PM
Mar 2013

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We can't count on conservative billionaire owned media to tell us anything except that which feeds the passions by making people feel angry, fearful or helpless. To ignore the ocean of influence we are living in is to let them get away with it:

Thom Hartmann: Conservative Millennials, Boomers & Libertarians all being Conned


Multigenerational political influence by a very narrow special interest group is rare, but we're seeing it played out right now in front of us. A billionaire family - the Kochs - have gone from influencing my father's generation, to my generation, to my kids' generation - and very few Americans realize it. Daddy Koch - Fred - made his first millions palling around with Joe Stalin in the Soviet Union in the 1920s and 1930s. As the fascists rose to power in Europe in the 1930s, he was an enthusiastic supporter of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, who invented the word "fascist," meaning essentially the takeover of democratic governments by big business interests. Mussolini went so far as to dissolve the Italian parliament, and replace elected politicians with representatives of each district's largest corporations. Fred Koch and Mussolini both particularly hated the trade unionists and their sometimes allies, the communists. So after Mussolini, along with his ally Hitler, lost World War II against America, Fred Koch brought the anti-communist pro-business-running-goverment - what some would call "facist" - torch to America big time, helping start the John Birch Society.

Two of their biggest efforts are pretty well known. After the Supreme Court ruled, in 1954, in the Brown versus Board of Education case, that segregation in schools was unconstitutional, the John Birch Society put up billboards all across America calling for the impeachment of the Chief Justice of the Court, Earl Warren. Daddy Fred Koch was very concerned about the integration of our schools - in fact, he wrote, "The colored man looms large in the Communist plan to take over America." With JFK's election, Fred Koch's John Birch Society went off again - this time against JFK. Using rhetoric not that different from the "secret Muslim" plots the Tea Party promotes about Obama, in a 1963 speech Fred said that " infiltrate the highest offices of government in the U.S. until the President is a Communist, unknown to the rest of us.”

When JFK was scheduled to come to Dallas that year, the JBS distributed flyers saying, "Wanted, for Treason" all around the town two days before his arrival. On the day JFK was assassinated, large ads ran in the Dallas newspapers attacking Kennedy as being soft on Castro, among other things. That was my dad's generation. Daddy Koch died, and his sons Charles and David took over the family business of promoting the business and billionaire takeover of our American government.

They're doing it with a two-pronged attack. For people over forty, they're funding the Tea Party through a variety of groups, most notably Americans for Prosperity and Freedomworks. And for people under forty, they're funding Libertarian think tanks, like the Charles Koch Foundation (which was renamed as the Cato Institute), and the Reason Foundation, where David Koch is a trustee, which happily embraces a new generation of young people with the idea that "freedom" means the "freedom" to buy politicians and the "freedom" to pollute. For the young people, of course, the Libertarians throw in the "freedom" to smoke dope and hire a hooker, but those are just bones being cynically tossed to young potheads and young protoge's of Dick Morris.

But the Koch's have been inside the Libertarian movement from its beginning - 32 years ago this year, David Koch was the Libertarian Party's official candidate for Vice President of the United States. It's really pretty incredible, but it's all true. The main agenda of the Koch's John Birch Society was to enhance the power and control of our government by big business and billionaires, while fighting organized labor and people like me who were protesting the Vietnam War. The main agenda of the Koch's Tea Party is to get millionaires elected to Congress and have them cut taxes and regulations for Koch Industries and other polluting corporations, while fighting organized labor and people like me who were protesting the Iraq War.

And the main agenda of the Koch's Libertarians - again, funded and trained by the Koch Brothers - is to keep intact the power of big money over our government, cut taxes and regulations on billionaires and polluting industries, while fighting organized labor and people like me who are protesting the corporate takeover of the United States of America. Three generations of Americans, all duped by the same billionaire family. Three generations buying into the idea that "what's best for industry and billionaires is best for America" - and that government is our "enemy" rather than something that our nation's founders fought and died to create for all of "We The People" And, increasingly, it's not just the Koch family. The Walton family - whose combined wealth is greater than 40 percent of all Americans - funded a covert campaign to rename the estate tax as the "death tax" and lobbied so hard they got the estate tax eliminated entirely in 2010.

Senator Bernie Sanders pointed out yesterday that - so far - we know of 26 billionaires - worth over $146 billion - who have already "invested" or committed to invest over $561 million dollars in this election cycle - most of it to defeat Democrats who want to raise their taxes. The good news is that young people are waking up and realizing that the Libertarian hustle the billionaires are feeding them is just that - a hustle. Just like Tea Partiers are waking up to their having been had by billionaires who want to privatize their Social Security. Hopefully, soon, America will regain its sanity and we'll go back to viewing cranky billionaires the way my Dad's generation did - as Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower did - when Eisenhower referred to their ilk as "small in number and stupid" They're not stupid any more, and if we really value American traditions, we really must push back on this kind of power and influence in American politics...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/101744227

The voices of hatred, fear and despair are never our friends. We do not accomplish things by taking as gospel the voices of the maliciously lazy.

Action conquers fear. To give in by imagining an inevitability or defeat before one has done one's best to change things, is exactly what is wanted with all of the faux outrage. Follow the money and associations to see who is saying what. Consider their reasons for selling it to you and who paid them.

Only the people can make changes, millions of them singly acting to bring out their vision. The other side is doing so, but they have the media to cheer them on and we don't. It's up to us.

“The President does not have line item veto power; it’s all or nothing." Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #1
It remains true whether it was in the report or not. Richardo Mar 2013 #3
What about Presidential signing statements? They_Live Mar 2013 #80
Many of us didn't regard that as legitimate then, nor would we now. freshwest Mar 2013 #83
Signing statements have no legal weight, or force of law. Using a signing msanthrope Mar 2013 #99
you mean that mean ol Obama isn'tthe debbil? them's fightin' woids! dionysus Mar 2013 #4
C'mon dion. Don't beat me up. I'm not the one who posted a blatant hitpiece with glaring omissions Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #8
Please, Obama hit piece with glaring omissions? That NEVER happens here. stevenleser Mar 2013 #15
You're right. Please forgive me? I'm so ashamed. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #21
THANKS! Nothing like facts, elleng Mar 2013 #2
I don't understand portraying Mikulski as powerless here tkmorris Mar 2013 #7
Understanding how things work and, hence, what our personal commitment to specific outcomes must patrice Mar 2013 #5
Too many DUers don't do "facts" when Monsatan is involved... SidDithers Mar 2013 #6
They don't do facts when Cha Mar 2013 #9
Feels like breitbart posts here at times... freshwest Mar 2013 #91
I have felt that heat timdog44 Apr 2013 #128
Illegitimi non carborundum. freshwest Apr 2013 #129
Thank you for that. timdog44 Apr 2013 #130
Don't feel bad about it. Your life is a success story. Everyone has triggers. freshwest Apr 2013 #131
Yes. I've rage quitted DU a few times over these people... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #11
So it's no one's fault? Doctor_J Mar 2013 #10
You didn't read any of that, did you? WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #12
If you're not providing them info that looks bad for Obama, they generally don't read it. stevenleser Mar 2013 #16
1% er MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #66
I'm not a 1%'r if that is even what your post means. stevenleser Mar 2013 #68
Hmm. Disruptive post by newbie accusing DUer of being 1% which has nothing to do with the subthread. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2013 #82
Actually I read the entire thing Doctor_J Mar 2013 #18
Risk a government shutdown over a toothless rider that's gone in 6 months. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #20
Worry not Doctor_J Mar 2013 #24
My hero. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #25
And the bu$h tax cuts were supposed to expire several years ago Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #65
Try being homeless 1%er. MoclipsHumptulips Mar 2013 #67
Derp yourself. I dont think WillPitt is a 1%er either. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #69
The resolution passed by a veto proof margin in the house and senate onenote Mar 2013 #64
That's gotta be a REALLY low number. I'm not saying never, but LOW... nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #70
Could it be the fact that he has had a Democratic Senate for the entire time -and a Democratic House karynnj Mar 2013 #115
So you're saying that the agenda that's passed is his? Doctor_J Mar 2013 #116
I think it was as close to what he wanted AS COULD PASS karynnj Mar 2013 #123
Vetoing an entire spending bill over that one amendment and causing a possible govt shutdown... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #13
So it's OK to give in to blackmailers/terrorists Doctor_J Mar 2013 #26
Which is why no one like Doc will ever sit inside the Oval Office. We had the chance to elect an... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #27
You're right. Blackmail works again. Why is it the Democrats are always sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Mar 2013 #57
So what language in the bill about Monsato has you so worked up? Sheepshank Mar 2013 #71
Explain your last sentence please. It sounds like a personal attack sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #72
I understand your outrage on behalf of farmers Sheepshank Mar 2013 #75
If you want to know why I am outraged over this rider, I have sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #76
And yet there have been other posts with the actual language of the bill. Sheepshank Mar 2013 #77
Lol, no one has ever succeeded in silencing me, so where you are getting this sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #78
"And please post a comment of mine stating that 'people are trying to silence me'." Sheepshank Mar 2013 #81
I absolutely stand by those comments and have made many more along the sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #84
lol Sheepshank Mar 2013 #87
Well, you already failed to produce your 'victim' posts so it's probably a waste of sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #94
your RW tactics are a huge fail Sheepshank Mar 2013 #97
"to conflate all of this with the current bill is disingenious...to say the least." Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #101
Someone told me once that when people are engaged in a discussion about an sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #113
Exactly whatchamacallit Mar 2013 #74
So few understand the game. zeemike Mar 2013 #50
"It's not King Obama's fault.. it's ours"! I'm glad we're Cha Mar 2013 #14
Thanks for posting this. Grateful for Hope Mar 2013 #17
But wait...I though it meant that no GMO labeling would be allowed. MineralMan Mar 2013 #19
So you don't know what is in the rider?? Any Democrat following this story sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #73
Well, you seem to be unable to point to the words in the rider that are so objectionable. jeff47 Mar 2013 #88
I've provided, but from democratic sources so maybe they are not credible sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #93
Actually, you haven't. And you don't here either jeff47 Mar 2013 #95
Did you know that courts can only rule on actual existing law? sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #96
You really should take your own advice. jeff47 Mar 2013 #117
There is simply no defense for this no matter how you try to excuse it. sabrina 1 Mar 2013 #120
I have been all over Facebook with my liberal friends glowing Mar 2013 #22
Sanders voted for the Continuing Resolution. MineralMan Mar 2013 #23
Because it was an economic bill to keep paying our bills. glowing Mar 2013 #29
Yes, indeed it was. MineralMan Mar 2013 #31
I was defending on this case. glowing Mar 2013 #62
Good catch MM. Another of DU's internet legends shot all to hell. I wonder if it changes anything Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #30
Only one Democrat voted against this continuing resolution. MineralMan Mar 2013 #32
"The Obama-bashing over this bill is bullshit, plain and simple." Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #39
Right you are! nt MineralMan Mar 2013 #41
Oh...I forgot...Elizabeth Warren voted for that bill, too. MineralMan Mar 2013 #35
Perhaps I was unclear in my post.. I have been telling them that they cannot hold this over the glowing Mar 2013 #61
Makes more sense now. sakabatou Mar 2013 #28
Thank you, Will Hekate Mar 2013 #33
Thank you. Raine1967 Mar 2013 #34
Thanks for that info but does anyone know Babel_17 Mar 2013 #58
I thought they were answered in the OP. Raine1967 Mar 2013 #59
No, or at least I don't see it. (nt) Babel_17 Mar 2013 #105
Re-read the OP links and the entire thread. Raine1967 Mar 2013 #108
The answers to my questions? Babel_17 Mar 2013 #110
Another one who didn't actually bother to read the linked material. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #89
Or appreciate the fact that there was a deadline or the government would be shut down. freshwest Mar 2013 #90
Is this what "activism" has become? I mean, what separates the left from the teabaggers now? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2013 #98
Yes, the themes are exactly the same. May be in this book which I haven't read yet: freshwest Mar 2013 #103
Thanks fresh, I've been out of the loop for a few days, had a family emergency. I've bookmarked.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #125
You're welcome and take care. Hope things get better. freshwest Apr 2013 #126
I appreciate that there was a deadline Babel_17 Mar 2013 #107
The communication is there. Get on the OFA email list and contact your representatives regularly. freshwest Mar 2013 #109
Actually, I did Babel_17 Mar 2013 #106
Appreciate this very much. Thanks. byronius Mar 2013 #36
I appreciate this but there will be some who will still argue the obvious with you. grantcart Mar 2013 #37
Yes, I got flamed pointing the obvious last night. freshwest Mar 2013 #85
i tried Enrique Mar 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Mar 2013 #42
Ow. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #43
Yours! wrong thread! think of the shame sinking into mine! .... nt delrem Mar 2013 #47
LOL WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #48
This rider is the camel with its nose in the tent........... Smilo Mar 2013 #44
Risk a government shutdown over a toothless rider that will die in six months. WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #45
Yes, risk a government shutdown Smilo Mar 2013 #49
And this is exactly the process by which they move the country zeemike Mar 2013 #53
Will...the second link in your OP makes it seem like Milkulsky is clueless... KoKo Mar 2013 #63
K&R JohnnyRingo Mar 2013 #46
I'm curious as to what her reason was for picking Autumn Mar 2013 #51
Just to clarify CitizenPatriot Mar 2013 #52
Thanks. And those finger pointing need to change Congress next year and state governments quickly. freshwest Mar 2013 #92
The way I read it, and I could be wrong as I don't do legalize well, sunwyn Mar 2013 #54
I just want to K&R this. nt Tree-Hugger Mar 2013 #55
Recipe for successful DU OP: hide facts, misquote and add hyperbolic outrage emulatorloo Mar 2013 #56
My God, Obama is likely going to be blackmailed by a veritable passel of poisoned pills: when will indepat Mar 2013 #60
Bullcrap KT2000 Mar 2013 #79
+1 forestpath Mar 2013 #102
That's an excuse, not a reason. It's it's always the same excuse used to screw us. grahamhgreen Mar 2013 #86
k&r... spanone Mar 2013 #100
I don't agree. Imagine if they had attached an abortion ban in the same way. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #104
^This^ What if someone put in a bill stripping the pre existing clause from the ACA? Autumn Mar 2013 #114
You left a few facts out of your "what if" onenote Mar 2013 #121
"It might be possible to have an intelligent conversation"? limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #122
Yeah, the OP and the link therein are preposterous Doctor_J Mar 2013 #124
THANKS Will! nt Raine Mar 2013 #111
William Rivers Pitt to the rescue again. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #112
Yes, I'm starting to really suspect these types of accusations treestar Mar 2013 #118
K&R Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #119
Will, I have read far anough back into this quaker bill Apr 2013 #127
Goddammit, we elected him to the House to prevent shit like this. Orsino Apr 2013 #132
YAY! The system works!!! Zorra Apr 2013 #133
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