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wercal

(1,370 posts)
21. Well I don't think the prosecution would ever bring it up.
Tue May 28, 2013, 12:03 PM
May 2013

But the defense will. They petitioned the judge for permission to bring it up...so it seems fairly certain that they will, if given the opportunity.

Their angle will be that it makes you paranoid.

This is 2nd Degree Murder, and my interpretation of the law is that one of two hurdles must be cleared. One is stalking, and the law is quite explicit that stalking has to occur at least twice, to be considered.

So, this leaves the 2nd hurdle...which is extreme and willful negligence. Essentially it has to be proven that a reasonable person would have known that death was a likely outcome from following Martin. The defense is going to argue that a reasonable person could not have known that Martin had THC in his system, and that his paranoia would contribute to the confrontation occuring.

Now, they can only make this argument if the judge allows the drug evidence...and she essentially did. They can't make opening arguments about it, but she didn't rule out bringing it up altogether...so the autopsy report will be brought out, and the medical examiner will be questioned about it....and then it will be fair game for the closing argument.

Do you see how that strategy makes no claim that marijuana makes one violent?

In my conspriratorial mind, the state deliberately overcharged (2nd degree murder). That is very hard to prove, and manslaughter would have been alot easier case. Its almost as if they want to lose the 2nd degree case...and flame me if you like, but I just don't see a way they can win the 2nd degree murder case.

Excellent! nt MrScorpio May 2013 #1
Makes me hopeful then JustAnotherGen May 2013 #2
Awesome news. Starry Messenger May 2013 #3
That's the appropriate ruling. JimDandy May 2013 #4
You think they've leaked all they had? customerserviceguy May 2013 #7
1. You are ASSuming, "there's way more"; 2. Appeal?! On what grounds?! NONE of this "leak" is WinkyDink May 2013 #12
Sounds like Customerserviceguy is saying the defense it trying to cover all its bases. freedom fighter jh May 2013 #14
You did customerserviceguy May 2013 #50
What I think is that JimDandy May 2013 #22
Wow.. Pelican May 2013 #52
Why? Judges often issue gag orders JimDandy May 2013 #54
Not true. In fact the Zimmerman JimDandy Jun 2013 #55
That is wonderful Bettie May 2013 #5
That's great and all, but they leaked all that crap to the local media already and the winterpark May 2013 #6
This reality is the sinking feeling in the pit of my arthritisR_US May 2013 #11
The prosecution has a good case JimDandy May 2013 #24
Same was said about Casey Anthony davidn3600 May 2013 #48
Very different cases. JimDandy May 2013 #53
So if the circumstances had been switched tavernier May 2013 #33
I'm a Floridian. I can crack on Florida. n/t winterpark May 2013 #34
excellent. Whisp May 2013 #8
Good malaise May 2013 #9
The AP story is very vague wercal May 2013 #10
Anybody with a BRAIN knows that marijuana doesn't make a person violent! And the prosecutors have WinkyDink May 2013 #13
Well I don't think the prosecution would ever bring it up. wercal May 2013 #21
Maybe they'll show the movie Reefer Madness also. uppityperson May 2013 #25
Zimmerman and every reasonable JimDandy May 2013 #36
Really wercal May 2013 #38
You have a *what if...* JimDandy May 2013 #39
Where do I start wercal May 2013 #42
Thinking about what you wrote... JimDandy May 2013 #46
I meant in prosecutorial rebuttal! WinkyDink May 2013 #37
That only explains why he went out for those Skittles Warpy May 2013 #20
That's good, but I still have a bad feeling about this one. catbyte May 2013 #15
Zimmerman's lawyers will use every filthy trick in the book Warpy May 2013 #19
I am disappointed that you would disparage the defense. Not an attitude I expect rhett o rick May 2013 #47
I respect the defense when they earn it Warpy May 2013 #49
Good treestar May 2013 #16
That's what I was hoping the judge would say Warpy May 2013 #17
Good libodem May 2013 #18
and Zim's daddy, the former judge defacto7 May 2013 #32
Exactly libodem May 2013 #40
+1,000. If any laundry comes out, put it all out. But I'm betting neither will be permitted. freshwest May 2013 #43
Of course, what does his marijuana use have to do with anything? Quixote1818 May 2013 #23
Good! I couldn't believe what I was hearing re bringing all of this stuff in. Yay Judge! nt. polly7 May 2013 #26
I suppose I'm going to be the odd man out here. Savannahmann May 2013 #27
Great ruling CincyDem May 2013 #28
their plan was to poison the jury pool with info they knew would not be admissible in court ZRT2209 May 2013 #29
With Fox Noise playing the same tune in the background, jury selection will be hard. freshwest May 2013 #44
Finally...That's all I've been trying to say from the start... Blue_Tires May 2013 #30
Good. Terra Alta May 2013 #31
I don't think they ever intended it to be used at trial -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #35
Yeap, the victim wasn't perfect so they deserved to die defense...it's overtly stupid uponit7771 May 2013 #41
Thank Goodness.. because it really is irrelevant to this Cha May 2013 #45
It's all about poisoning the jury pool. Atman May 2013 #51
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