Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Conyers, Nadler, and Scott: NSA-Phone Tracking is Overbroad; Call for Immediate Hearings [View all]MisterP
(23,730 posts)64. but remember, the flunky who spies, serves Wall Street, attacks the New Deal, and conducts
Last edited Sun Jun 16, 2013, 05:20 PM - Edit history (1)
wars of aggression and choice is the Good Guy, just like Nader is responsible for the Dem votes that passed the IWR, just like the 2006 election was a Maoist purge of the Dem party, and just like 2010 was the gays' fault...
oh, and "circular firing squad"
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
113 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Conyers, Nadler, and Scott: NSA-Phone Tracking is Overbroad; Call for Immediate Hearings [View all]
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
OP
if you alert, the juries will ignore you. attacking some of the most liberal members of congress
Nanjing to Seoul
Jun 2013
#102
But but it's *legal*! As *legal*and as defended as slavery and discrimination once were.
Catherina
Jun 2013
#2
The thing is, FISA does NOT give permission to spy domestically, it is only for foreign
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#6
That's the most hilarious part of it all. Secret courts, secret interpretations, secret rulings,
Catherina
Jun 2013
#26
Yes, someone here actually told me the other day after I posted the 4th Amendment for him which,
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#52
You can't even get the first letter of the acronym across. What hope is there for the content?
Catherina
Jun 2013
#22
Well, I've mentioned that a few times and got no response from the defenders so I'm
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#71
No one is "attacking" Nadler. The fact you resort to hyperbole just shows how reactionary so many
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#12
Looks to me like there are two sides. When a whistle-blower speaks out and says that something is
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#18
Sorry, there are 3 groups. I am in the group wanting more facts. Many DU'ers are in group 3 which
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#23
You're "in the group wanting more facts"? The NSA isn't going to willingly give more facts to you
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#72
Well, I would never compare Nadler, to the Republican, Alaskan Sen. Stevens who was
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#86
but remember, the flunky who spies, serves Wall Street, attacks the New Deal, and conducts
MisterP
Jun 2013
#64
It's possible to trust Nadler and yet question whether he misunderstands terminology & tech issues-
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#11
Just want to add, "bless those reactionary screamers" like Alan Grayson screaming for, of all thing,
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#13
I think Nadler has been a long time defender of whistleblowers trying to provide us transparency...
cascadiance
Jun 2013
#79
Yes, you are right. He's been a fantastic voice against the destruction of our rights for a long
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#104
Does Anyone Have A Complete Understanding Of The Technical Methods Implemented Or Consequences
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#15
No Doubt - And With The Nadler Revelations That Might Apply To Obama As Well
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#33
Again, Bush warrantless wiretapping=Illegal, Obama use of FISA=legal. No impeachment warranted. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2013
#38
Nadler Says That No FISA Court Involved - Per His Public Understanding Of The Process
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#41
I understand perfectly well what the defenders of this 'collecting and storing' of domestic data are
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#107
Thanks for the post. Looks like the lines are being drawn. Either stand with Grayson or Clapper.
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#19
I'd actually stand with Nadler. It's hilarious you drag Grayson's name into this thread.
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#25
"Apparently there is some effort to discredit even Jerry Nadler now, in favor of Mueller."
OilemFirchen
Jun 2013
#31
It is being claimed that 'Nadler misunderstood' what was being said. He did NOT misunderstand
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#48
I read the transcript of the Mueller/Nadler discussion. It is all over the internet, and if cnet
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#55
See the threads that linked to cnet. There was no subtext, Nadler was not confused, Mueller otoh
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#63
He's not the first to blow the whistle on these violations of our rights. Just one more in what is
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#67
Disingenuous. Nadler did not say he doesnt believe they are listening, he said it is illegal to do
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#46
Lol, yes, he is pleased that the Adminstration has stated what he always believed,
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#49
That is NOT 'walking back' anything he has said at all. It is stating that he is glad the president
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#84
I'm for that. It never should have passed in the first place, and it did have a 'sunshine clause'
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#77
Anyone who believes that after learning about the Multi billion dollar 'secruty' industry, after
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#100
Im surprised the OP article up above iis on the front page of DU - article from June 6th
Tx4obama
Jun 2013
#108
Nadler did not 'walk his comments back' and that is old news btw, and has been discussed here
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#109
good. Thanks for the posting this information. I'm glad to see this story is not going away. nt
limpyhobbler
Jun 2013
#113