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69. Did you notice this was dated June 6th? Before the recent briefings?

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Sun Jun 16, 2013, 03:31 PM

Jun 2013

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Conyers, Nadler, and Scott: NSA-Phone Tracking is Overbroad; Call for Immediate Hearings [View all] sabrina 1 Jun 2013 OP

They are already being smeared by DUer's... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #1

How very Rovian of them. 20score Jun 2013 #10

That's as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning. QC Jun 2013 #14

Yep. Like COINTELPRO. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #30

Fortunately the overwhelming majority on DU are not usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #36

Yep. DU's own brigade of bullying authoritarian shitbags. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #57

You forgot Greenwald, how that he grew horns 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #81

if you alert, the juries will ignore you. attacking some of the most liberal members of congress Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #102

But but it's *legal*! As *legal*and as defended as slavery and discrimination once were. Catherina Jun 2013 #2

The thing is, FISA does NOT give permission to spy domestically, it is only for foreign sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #6

They dont' need laws when they can make up "interpretations" on Opposite Day MNBrewer Jun 2013 #7

That's the most hilarious part of it all. Secret courts, secret interpretations, secret rulings, Catherina Jun 2013 #26

Great video marions ghost Jun 2013 #34

Thanks for watching it. I hope more people watch the whistleblower videos Catherina Jun 2013 #44

It can't be said enough marions ghost Jun 2013 #53

"Secret detentions are right around the corner." East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #91

Classify/reclassify... ReRe Jun 2013 #28

Yes, someone here actually told me the other day after I posted the 4th Amendment for him which, sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #52

You can't even get the first letter of the acronym across. What hope is there for the content? Catherina Jun 2013 #22

Well, I've mentioned that a few times and got no response from the defenders so I'm sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #71

All it takes is a little waiting MuseRider Jun 2013 #9

+++++ marions ghost Jun 2013 #27

You nailed it, This is personal, very personal Catherina Jun 2013 #35

I don't want to live in that world either MuseRider Jun 2013 #61

It's a dreadful situation but I'm glad it's being discussed Catherina Jun 2013 #90

Lol: sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #65

No one is "attacking" Nadler. The fact you resort to hyperbole just shows how reactionary so many KittyWampus Jun 2013 #12

Looks to me like there are two sides. When a whistle-blower speaks out and says that something is rhett o rick Jun 2013 #18

Sorry, there are 3 groups. I am in the group wanting more facts. Many DU'ers are in group 3 which KittyWampus Jun 2013 #23

You're "in the group wanting more facts"? The NSA isn't going to willingly give more facts to you AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #72

Red flags go up in my head when I hear this. zeemike Jun 2013 #24

Well, I would never compare Nadler, to the Republican, Alaskan Sen. Stevens who was sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #86

but remember, the flunky who spies, serves Wall Street, attacks the New Deal, and conducts MisterP Jun 2013 #64

K&R n/t myrna minx Jun 2013 #3

"Public" hearings. Downwinder Jun 2013 #4

Yes.... And let's not have them in the basement of some remote room.... midnight Jun 2013 #105

Recommend! morningfog Jun 2013 #5

This is a June 6 release based on the initial reporting. ProSense Jun 2013 #8

It's possible to trust Nadler and yet question whether he misunderstands terminology & tech issues- KittyWampus Jun 2013 #11

Just want to add, "bless those reactionary screamers" like Alan Grayson screaming for, of all thing, rhett o rick Jun 2013 #13

"over reaction" MuseRider Jun 2013 #62

I agree. Our "representative" government is failing us. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #66

Your posts are just golden, Kitty. Golden. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #20

I think Nadler has been a long time defender of whistleblowers trying to provide us transparency... cascadiance Jun 2013 #79

Yes, you are right. He's been a fantastic voice against the destruction of our rights for a long sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #104

Does Anyone Have A Complete Understanding Of The Technical Methods Implemented Or Consequences cantbeserious Jun 2013 #15

Bush should have been impeached for his illegal wiretapping Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #29

No Doubt - And With The Nadler Revelations That Might Apply To Obama As Well cantbeserious Jun 2013 #33

Again, Bush warrantless wiretapping=Illegal, Obama use of FISA=legal. No impeachment warranted. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #38

Nadler Says That No FISA Court Involved - Per His Public Understanding Of The Process cantbeserious Jun 2013 #41

No FISA court involved in which issue? nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #45

Foreign Intelligence Surveillence Act does not authorise DOMESTIC spying. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #42

No one is saying that it does. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #43

Domestic spying under FISA is also illegal. Is that so hard to comprehend? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #68

You don't understand the meaning of that in the law stevenleser Jun 2013 #74

Oh, I guess you know more than the three ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #98

I understand perfectly well what the defenders of this 'collecting and storing' of domestic data are sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #107

FISA doesn't have the authority to authorize ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #97

It's legal when Obama (D) does it. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #73

Agreed. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #40

K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #16

thanks, Bobby Scott, from a Virginian carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #17

Thanks for the post. Looks like the lines are being drawn. Either stand with Grayson or Clapper. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #19

I'd actually stand with Nadler. It's hilarious you drag Grayson's name into this thread. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #25

Well I expect the following to happen to this upstart nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #21

"Apparently there is some effort to discredit even Jerry Nadler now, in favor of Mueller." OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #31

It is being claimed that 'Nadler misunderstood' what was being said. He did NOT misunderstand sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #48

This is what you said: OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #50

I read the transcript of the Mueller/Nadler discussion. It is all over the internet, and if cnet sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #55

And there's more! OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #59

See the threads that linked to cnet. There was no subtext, Nadler was not confused, Mueller otoh sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #63

When all else fails, you COULD read the transcript: OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #75

Again, saying you are pleased with someone's public statement on policy... cascadiance Jun 2013 #80

Agreed. Look at his actual statement. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #88

I have read the transcript. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #94

and nothing will come of it. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #32

I wouldn't count on that. The Church Committee put the brakes on sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #92

Oh shit, Nadler, Wyden, Udall, Grayson and more Iliyah Jun 2013 #37

He's not the first to blow the whistle on these violations of our rights. Just one more in what is sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #67

Nadler update ProSense Jun 2013 #39

Disingenuous. Nadler did not say he doesnt believe they are listening, he said it is illegal to do sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #46

Here is his direct qoute: ProSense Jun 2013 #47

Lol, yes, he is pleased that the Adminstration has stated what he always believed, sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #49

That's really a convoluted response. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #51

You're free to unconvolute it, if you can! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #56

Well, where to ProSense Jun 2013 #58

I didn't say Congress was lied TO. I said they were lied ABOUT which Nadler sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #60

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #54

Did you notice this was dated June 6th? Before the recent briefings? pnwmom Jun 2013 #69

Did he cancel it? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #70

All I know is that since then he went to that hearing with Mueller, pnwmom Jun 2013 #83

That is NOT 'walking back' anything he has said at all. It is stating that he is glad the president sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #84

How about a repeal of the ' Patriot Act ' ? orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #76

I'm for that. It never should have passed in the first place, and it did have a 'sunshine clause' sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #77

Agreed , biggest misanthrope in Presidential history . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #112

I live in a small coastal Oregon town of 1200 persons. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2013 #89

+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #111

sabrina 1. As usual timdog44 Jun 2013 #78

+1000 cascadiance Jun 2013 #82

Good for you and I am sorry about your friend's loss. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #85

. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #87

K&R midnight Jun 2013 #93

The most recent libdude Jun 2013 #95

The potential abuses are frightening. And more than possible, probable. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #96

and that's the fact of the matter.... ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #99

Anyone who believes that after learning about the Multi billion dollar 'secruty' industry, after sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #100

K&R! blackspade Jun 2013 #101

du rec. xchrom Jun 2013 #103

It only take a few brave people and then the rest will follow Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #106

Im surprised the OP article up above iis on the front page of DU - article from June 6th Tx4obama Jun 2013 #108

Nadler did not 'walk his comments back' and that is old news btw, and has been discussed here sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #109

I agree with the approach of Conyers, Nadler and Scott. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #110

good. Thanks for the posting this information. I'm glad to see this story is not going away. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #113