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In reply to the discussion: Fast-Food Strikes Expand Across U.S. to 50 Cities [View all]greiner3
(5,214 posts)146. So the new minimum wage;
De facto, would be $15.00.
Fast food is the most 'bottom rung' of low skilled workers.
So by raising these millions of workers wages, most other workers making about minimum wage would have to raise theirs or remain in a constant slots to fill.
Also, in negotiating, you ask for the moon but settle for the Space Station.
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+1. I also love it, because Repugs are in overdrive attacking workers - they can't help themselves!
reformist2
Aug 2013
#105
i think if it goes to fifteen bucks they will price themselves out of a job
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#10
or people who know that why would someone work for twelve bucks when they can move jobs
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#33
no, but the reality is that if tbe wage goes to fifteen dollars then more skilled people will take
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#44
probuably cause they cant get employees due to the oil business paying so well
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#54
that they cant get anyone to work mcdonalds in minot, whereas in other markets
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#58
in minot it seems everyone with any skills is also emlpoyed in the oil industry and support
loli phabay
Aug 2013
#62
After a while low skill workers gain experience and skills. Maybe get promoted to shift manager.
Pterodactyl
Aug 2013
#209
This will help get the Federal minimum wage raised to at the least $9, as O has proposed forever
Sunlei
Aug 2013
#11
There's no such thing as low-skill labor, and the notion that skill has anything to do
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#102
Too many of us have gone well and truly insane. They're completely invested in perpetuating
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#193
All work is most certainly no equal, and the value placed on it depends on the skills required, as
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#215
I worked fast food too, while I was going to college so that I wouldn't have to work in fast food.
Flatulo
Sep 2013
#350
I don't begrudge anyone the highest wage they can get. I *did* work in fast food, and it's
Flatulo
Sep 2013
#352
At $15/hour, you're talking $31,200 per year - assuming you can get full time hours . . .
hatrack
Sep 2013
#353
You can't possibly compare skill needed to clean a toilet to the skill needed to operate on a brain.
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#213
Yes, you can. But reading through your replies on this thread, it is pretty clear that writing out
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#253
You don't even know what anyone else is talking about, but here you are,
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#265
I was responding to a post that claimed that the connection between skill level and wage
Flatulo
Sep 2013
#349
Flat wrong on every count. Do you have any more Reich-Wing talking points you want to
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#269
I apologize if I've mis-characterized your position on the political spectrum. From your several
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#279
Dude, it is not "nifty" and I'm glad that you are not bearing me any ill will.
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#266
Nobody's making that argument. And "low-skilled" is either code or ignorance, depending on the
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#256
I said it. It's my take on one poster's disdain for people whom I consider to be deserved
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#294
The arguments have been made thousands of times by hundreds of people. If you're unaware of them,
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#321
Thanks for the detailed, thoughtful response. I appreciate the time it takes to do this, because
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#323
Are you arguing for wage equality, or just a living wage? You scold and scold, but really don't
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#280
As a well experienced and licenced truck and auto mechanic, my last job paid $14.50 per hour.
ConcernedCanuk
Aug 2013
#108
republicans are in general agreement with your opinions expressed here.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#141
So, because you are willing to trade your life for a tiny fraction of what it's worth,
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#325
It's all about negotiation, people. They ask for $15/hour and are hopeful
TheDebbieDee
Aug 2013
#159
I'm so tired of hearing it's not going to work. Did Hoffa say that when he first led the Teamsters?
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#235
Not sure if Hoffa is a good example. He ended up murdered by the gangsters.
Pterodactyl
Aug 2013
#300
There's no such thing as unskilled labor. And yes, you sound like you're getting old. n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#194
Chipotle is no longer a McDonald's company. They tried it and it didn't work for them
mountain grammy
Aug 2013
#20
You will not support decent wages, instead will be a scab for a fish sandwich? WHY are you on DU?
uppityperson
Aug 2013
#80
Search shows very mixed reviews. At least he is being straightforward about being a scab for a taste
uppityperson
Aug 2013
#83
I did. Hopefully MIRT will be issuing a pizza... Never mind, they just did!
backscatter712
Aug 2013
#96
You do not support living wages. Your need for a taste treat outweighs others need for housing/food.
uppityperson
Aug 2013
#94
How is making enough money to be able to eat and put a roof over your head outrageous? n/t
backscatter712
Aug 2013
#81
Be a scab for a burger? On the positive side, you've only been on 1 jury here.eom
uppityperson
Aug 2013
#75
That's classic Marxist dogma, and demonstrably untrue. Most businesses start out as
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#233
They should all get $15 an hour. That's only $600 a week, you know (before taxes).
reformist2
Aug 2013
#104
Actually, wage slavery is real. We shouldn't be afraid to call it a form of slavery.
reformist2
Aug 2013
#110
No, people expressing a rightwing point of view are in agreement with the republican view.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#164
No it is rightwing to refer to people as "burger flippers" who don't deserve a living wage.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#289
There is no such thing as unskilled labor. The fact that our government's unwavering support
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#196
I knew before opening the thread that it would be a RW talking point roll-call of sorts -
bullwinkle428
Aug 2013
#65
And the funny thing is that the true cost per meal for paying decent wages to fast food workers...
backscatter712
Aug 2013
#77
So many here just don't understand that raising wages is the start to raising all wages.
canoeist52
Aug 2013
#31
Exactly. It's good for business too. People will be able to afford to buy stuff.
SunSeeker
Aug 2013
#40
Bullshit. Ford paid what he did because he had to pay it to get the level of labor he needed.
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2013
#68
No, it won't be catastrophic. It will put us where we were in the late 1960s in today's dollars.
SunSeeker
Aug 2013
#324
The federal min. wage should be raised to $15, like it was in the 1960s in real dollars.
SunSeeker
Aug 2013
#327
We keep manufacturing jobs here by stopping the tax incentives for outsourcing.
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#331
Please provide the link to that Krugman quote. It cuts him off in the middle of a thought.
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#341
There has to be a NATIONAL minimum wage. Otherwise, there is not a level playing field.
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#348
I understand, and in normal times, it's a sound strategy. But we're in a depression, where
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#118
Those "millions of jobs going over seas" is why low-paid jobs are now in the limelight....
Eleanors38
Aug 2013
#206
Understood. The difference, and I don't think it's a trivial one, is that the factory jobs
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#212
Jobs lost because companies wanted to increase profits by paying workers slave wages
Mother Muckraker
Aug 2013
#211
I think you're underestimating that effect that efficiency has had on job destruction.
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#226
In one of my last jobs (I'm retired now) we had a 5-axis Haas machining center and one guy
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#277
Just being realistic. There's no way that zero skill labor is going to earn $15 when college
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#117
Without some income disparity, how do you incentivize people to do the hard jobs?
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#150
That's not my beef. The poster I was replying to was suggesting that workers with higher
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#232
My son is in the same boat - $200,000 in education (thankfully paid in full by Dad) and
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#236
Because then the paralegal will start at $20 after a short period of adjustment
nadinbrzezinski
Aug 2013
#238
I agree that the downward wage pressure started with Reagan. I haven't read Keynes, but I do
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#239
Instead of a completely content-less drive-by insult, how about you identify where I'm wrong
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#152
Why not set it to a livable wage? Oh wait, then you would be supporting the strike. N.
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#168
I can support indexing the minimum wage to inflation. If that's $15, fine with me.
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#223
That was a valid philosophy prior to the Reagan years. It worked for me. I worked hard,
Flatulo
Aug 2013
#119
when a worker doesn't make enough to do things like feed themselves -- you as a tax payer
xchrom
Aug 2013
#136
Who is handing out happiness? You imagine the workers are not worth the increase?
Jefferson23
Aug 2013
#138
$15 is reasonable. In fact in a lot of areas you would be hard pressed to
totodeinhere
Aug 2013
#188
right? especially when tax payers are put in the position of providing subsidies like food stamps
xchrom
Aug 2013
#130
You've been here a lot longer than I have. Surely you recognize the names? n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#197
That's a start. THEN we take his/her ownership of the means of production.......
socialist_n_TN
Aug 2013
#184
It is correct for restaurants owned directly by McDonalds (about 20% of McDonalds' restaurants).
SunSeeker
Aug 2013
#315
Exactly. They never want to start with the real welfare queens, they won't even talk about that.
Egalitarian Thug
Aug 2013
#268
They said on the news that fast food restaurants would have to raise prices if they
B Calm
Aug 2013
#244
Fast food is gross. Period. Anyone making money off me eating nasty "food" can get bent.
xoom
Aug 2013
#247
This country is in massive debt because Bush started two wars without putting them on the books...
SunSeeker
Aug 2013
#309
Also, the minimum wage would be $21.72 if it kept pace with increases in productivity. Graph:
SunSeeker
Sep 2013
#346
I'm in complete agreement with you. This is an unbelievably demoralizing thread.
Hekate
Sep 2013
#339