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MADem

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1. Like it or not, the road to single payer winds through Obamacare.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:38 AM

Dec 2013

Just like the road to marriage equality wound through DADT, repeal of DADT and a number of states exerting their "rights" to ignore DOMA until the Supremes called that a load of hooey.

It would be nice if we could just go directly to the sensible solution, but we can't. We don't. It's some sort of "rule" that we can just never make it easy on ourselves. We have to crab and carp and fight and whine and complain that "others" are "getting over" and receiving "entitlements" to which they are not, ironically enough "entitled," at least according to some.

When we finally get the spirit, though, it doesn't take us long to adapt. That's a good thing.

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Will the US health care system be tiered forever? [View all] eridani Dec 2013 OP

Like it or not, the road to single payer winds through Obamacare. MADem Dec 2013 #1

The most important thing about the ACA IMO is-- eridani Dec 2013 #2

Yes. And we've only been striving for this since before HRC got beaten to a pulp when she tried to MADem Dec 2013 #3

The systems in both the UK and Canada (which many DUers hold up as a model) are tiered. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #4

NO deductibles is a must Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #5

You can purchase very low deductible plans now, if you can pay for it. Hoyt Dec 2013 #10

If civilized countries don't need deductibles, then we don't either n/t eridani Dec 2013 #11

"It ain't going away here" Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #14

I agree, but deductibles aren't going anywhere. Even Medicare has them. Hoyt Dec 2013 #16

But cancer isn't a system designed by humans Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #18

Yeah sure, Obama barely got anything passed. If there had been no deductibles or coinsurance, the Hoyt Dec 2013 #19

When have the Republicans ever worked "within the obvious constraints"? Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #20

I don't count that as tiering eridani Dec 2013 #6

That's fine and dandy... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #15

There is no relationship between income and closeness to fire stations eridani Dec 2013 #17

Of course. "Single Payer" is and will always be for those who either don't want to or can't afford cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #7

Irrelevant eridani Dec 2013 #12

As long as you can pay for healthcare with private funds... seattledo Dec 2013 #8

Not really eridani Dec 2013 #13

Yes... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #9