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Nye Bevan

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4. The systems in both the UK and Canada (which many DUers hold up as a model) are tiered.
Fri Dec 27, 2013, 12:49 AM
Dec 2013

Everyone gets free healthcare in the UK. But if you need something that is not considered urgent, such as a hip replacement, you will be placed on a waiting list that can be many months long. If you have money and are willing to pay, however, you can be treated without delay. In Canada it's a bit different; there, to skip the line you need to be prepared to pay to travel to the US and then pay for private healthcare once you are there.

I think it's pretty unrealistic to aspire to a system where Warren Buffet is treated identically to someone with no money. But I would be ecstatic if we could have a tax-funded single payer system that gave everyone in the country something like an Obamacare Bronze plan for free, where people could pay money to upgrade to a higher level of plan if they wished.

Like it or not, the road to single payer winds through Obamacare. MADem Dec 2013 #1
The most important thing about the ACA IMO is-- eridani Dec 2013 #2
Yes. And we've only been striving for this since before HRC got beaten to a pulp when she tried to MADem Dec 2013 #3
The systems in both the UK and Canada (which many DUers hold up as a model) are tiered. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #4
NO deductibles is a must Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #5
You can purchase very low deductible plans now, if you can pay for it. Hoyt Dec 2013 #10
If civilized countries don't need deductibles, then we don't either n/t eridani Dec 2013 #11
"It ain't going away here" Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #14
I agree, but deductibles aren't going anywhere. Even Medicare has them. Hoyt Dec 2013 #16
But cancer isn't a system designed by humans Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #18
Yeah sure, Obama barely got anything passed. If there had been no deductibles or coinsurance, the Hoyt Dec 2013 #19
When have the Republicans ever worked "within the obvious constraints"? Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2013 #20
I don't count that as tiering eridani Dec 2013 #6
That's fine and dandy... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #15
There is no relationship between income and closeness to fire stations eridani Dec 2013 #17
Of course. "Single Payer" is and will always be for those who either don't want to or can't afford cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #7
Irrelevant eridani Dec 2013 #12
As long as you can pay for healthcare with private funds... seattledo Dec 2013 #8
Not really eridani Dec 2013 #13
Yes... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #9
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