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aikoaiko

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193. And the jury results are in...

Sun Jan 12, 2014, 10:41 PM

Jan 2014

sorry I forgot about this one and I'm posting it now.

At Fri Jan 10, 2014, 01:51 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

SO maybe it's OK to call women we don't like "bitches" or "c***s"...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4309735

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Over the top.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Jan 10, 2014, 02:00 PM, and the Jury voted 1-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I'm not sure if the poster is being mocking (It's no more appropriate to call Christie fat than it is okay to call women c**ts and b***hes.) or serious (Because it's okay to call Christie fat, per community standards, then other slanders are equally appropriate and being appalled by them or alerting is hypocritical.). One is appropriate IMO (The first one) and the other very-much isn't. Having no alert history to discern intent from, they get the credit of the doubt. Like runners in baseball, the tie goes to the poster.

In the future, if poster earns a reputation for misogyny or such, that courtesy will not be extended. Short leash.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Whisp is constantly bashing other people for posting or allowing things that she considers offensive -- this poster is merely pointing out her hypocrisy. Leave it.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I think the alerter missed the point.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No, its not over the top given this frank conversation about the hatred that is permitted to stand toward overweight people at DU.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: This is just a continuation of the many discussions on what's appropriate speech and although I see no sarcasm smilie, I see it as that.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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I wish you insensitive pricks would quit with the fat shaming. The governor is horrible because he [View all] Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 OP

A recent jury result: Earth_First Jan 2014 #1

Yeah. It's all kind of depressing. I'm fat and I hate knowing that I'm hated for it. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #2

Why do people serve on juries if they really don't want to do the thing requested? ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #11

I agree. BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #78

The entire concept of the DU jury system is lost on Juror # 6. Scuba Jan 2014 #95

Actually it is #2 who is prejudicialy biased, not #6. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #139

A juror is supposed to do the "thing requested"? Harry Monroe Jan 2014 #157

Ummm...no. "The thing requested" would be to judge the post. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #158

Only ignorant would hate you because you are overweight. I am overweight Maraya1969 Jan 2014 #91

In charge of DU BobUp Jan 2014 #100

That one makes me mad. Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #191

Duers are allowed to vote freely quinnox Jan 2014 #86

prickette, but thank you anyway for deciding for me Whisp Jan 2014 #3

Dude. Girth Certificate? Fat Liar? Come on. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #5

Like a fat pig? Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #7

a thin skinned one. Whisp Jan 2014 #9

SO maybe it's OK to call women we don't like "bitches" or "c***s"... Adrahil Jan 2014 #109

I've seen that here wryter2000 Jan 2014 #137

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Jan 2014 #193

YEH! donco Jan 2014 #4

He does not look healthy.. HipChick Jan 2014 #6

it looks like diabetes to me shanti Jan 2014 #17

You cannot always tell by looking at someone laundry_queen Jan 2014 #50

So what? radicalliberal Jan 2014 #59

Thank you! Damn good point! liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #62

Thank YOU! radicalliberal Jan 2014 #64

Excellent point OwnedByCats Jan 2014 #187

This message was self-deleted by its author radicalliberal Jan 2014 #61

How is his heart? Shouldn't he have to release health records if he runs for president? Emelina Jan 2014 #93

Health? CTCharlie Jan 2014 #104

So if it's his pallor that's off, why all the fat joke? nt Adrahil Jan 2014 #106

the fat jokes are nonstop! It's so wrong. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #8

i'm a fatbuddy FatBuddy Jan 2014 #10

Hey! I might be fat, but I'm LAZY! It's the way I roll/s! LOL n/t brewens Jan 2014 #77

He's making us look bad really. We're supposed to be jolly! I try and live up to that. n/t brewens Jan 2014 #81

Yep. ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #12

Accepting and reveling in bigotry loyalsister Jan 2014 #13

You're absolutely right! radicalliberal Jan 2014 #63

Agreed. lisby Jan 2014 #122

I've not seen the fat stuff. oldandhappy Jan 2014 #14

Calling DUers pricks will probably gt the job done! Iggo Jan 2014 #15

At this point I suspect nothing will get the job done. Obese people are subhuman and that's a-ok. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #16

They rationalize it in their small minds by telling themselves only conservatives over-indulge. nt ProgressSaves Jan 2014 #18

Wow. Generalize much? Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #102

Yeah, sounds like "prick" shaming to me. Cha Jan 2014 #23

Please read the OP carefully. radicalliberal Jan 2014 #58

Where did I say "all"? Iggo Jan 2014 #72

Fat shaming is one of the reasons that DU sucks, sometimes BuddhaGirl Jan 2014 #19

Gay shaming is cool too, as long as you're shaming "the right people". n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #21

overall bigotry is overlooked here Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #105

way too true. and the same people have been advocating pushing discussions of sexism and bettyellen Jan 2014 #142

Tribal behavior. n/t goldent Jan 2014 #185

It's all about hating the right people. If you hate the right people, what you say about them is cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #20

Excellent post! radicalliberal Jan 2014 #66

Well said. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #90

Many DUers think "FAT" is a funny work. Disgusting. n-t Logical Jan 2014 #22

It's a logical blind spot. dgauss Jan 2014 #24

it is kind of insensitive - to say the least Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #25

I would never characterize a prick as insensitive jberryhill Jan 2014 #49

Those that have to resort to physical insults are quite shallow if they have to resort to that lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #26

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #27

I agree with you. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #28

Ditto. I am not overweight, RebelOne Jan 2014 #125

I have repeatedly asked that folks here not use negative physical efhmc Jan 2014 #29

Yeah. . .leave Governor Ship Ballast alone. Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2014 #30

Spellcheck is your friend...It's not 'lampoon'.... Captain Stern Jan 2014 #184

Thar he blows. get it in the large blowhole! Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2014 #186

I agree. Many people are overweight due to medical conditions. Would anyone here JaneyVee Jan 2014 #31

I don't think it matters why they're overweight. I think the general principle is, you don't mock El_Johns Jan 2014 #85

Certain medicines makes you hungry as well. Neoma Jan 2014 #121

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #32

You had to go to a sockpuppet to say what you really feel. Nice courage of your convictions. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #35

1 and out! AAO Jan 2014 #37

I know it's probably my own issue, but every time he's in the news I cringe knowing that I'm going Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #33

I totally agree with every word in your post. nt laundry_queen Jan 2014 #52

it's the last acceptable prejudice and it is bbgrunt Jan 2014 #67

I also agree with every word in your OP. Physique has absolutely nothing to do with character. radicalliberal Jan 2014 #69

Christie is obese..he weighs something like 400 lbs.. Upton Jan 2014 #34

I agree, Ed tom_kelly Jan 2014 #36

Sounds kinda bigoted saying it the way you did. Because there are no fat Democrats, right? marble falls Jan 2014 #53

I think he meant that those who make fun of someone's weight come across as Republicans. cyberswede Jan 2014 #57

Correct, Cyber. I probably didn't word it the way I was thinking n/t tom_kelly Jan 2014 #74

I guess mileage varies because I always thought people who rag on the President here constantly Whisp Jan 2014 #75

No. What makes one come across like a repulican, or just an asshole jtuck004 Jan 2014 #155

I was just making a point tom_kelly Jan 2014 #175

Yeah, well, what one "should" expect, and what they find may well be two different thing. jtuck004 Jan 2014 #176

Are You Condemning Everyone in the Pepsi Generation? mckara Jan 2014 #38

well said and so true! bbgrunt Jan 2014 #68

This thread is insensitive to pricks. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #39

I was talking with someone about thier son's (over) weight issues lunasun Jan 2014 #40

because they think his bad policies and behavior justify their own bad behavior. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #41

What's up with the insensitive prick shaming? Orrex Jan 2014 #42

I absolutely agree Skittles Jan 2014 #43

Your post makes me suspicious of you. Au revoir! nt valerief Jan 2014 #44

Are you insinuating that I'm a republican or a Christie supporter? Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #45

You are responding to a poster who thinks it's OK to call a political opponent a c*nt so I wouldn't seaglass Jan 2014 #94

Whoa - really? Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #101

recall the good old days when W was referred to as a chimp et al? but that was ok...then nt msongs Jan 2014 #46

but he does look like a chimp. what is that bigoted against, chimpanzees? dionysus Jan 2014 #144

Great point imo chknltl Jan 2014 #148

Is Christie a pompous ass because he is large, SCVDem Jan 2014 #47

He would have been a jerk and a belligerent bully regardless of his size Tanuki Jan 2014 #92

I did not know that! SCVDem Jan 2014 #133

I'm truly surprised; always assumed he was always "heavyset." What we be really enlightening maddiemom Jan 2014 #169

Those who focus their contempt on someone's physical features rather than their behaviors,..... DrewFlorida Jan 2014 #48

thankyou, Dr. Phil Whisp Jan 2014 #51

Thank YOU, Ms. Snide! n/t radicalliberal Jan 2014 #70

wot, no pic? Whisp Jan 2014 #71

I'll do the honors... opiate69 Jan 2014 #123

The most interesting woman in the world. Whisp Jan 2014 #128

I so need to pick up the DVD set of that show.. opiate69 Jan 2014 #130

I happen to have the most interesting dog in the world... Whisp Jan 2014 #131

Scanning the threads, woo me with science Jan 2014 #54

there does seem to be a concerted effort to distract from real issues isn't there? liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #55

+100000 woo me with science Jan 2014 #65

This is a ridiculous theory by you Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #114

AGREED. Marr Jan 2014 #147

We used to complain about Dubya being an idiot and there were people claiming we were "anti-dumb". Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #56

Are the less intelligent worthy of our derision? Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #160

Not when you put it THAT way. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #161

I have to admit I laughed at the troll TBF Jan 2014 #60

"Full Ignore" is such a WONDERFUL feature! :) radicalliberal Jan 2014 #73

Well said chungking34 Jan 2014 #76

Or Christie could be exactly the same psychically, but be a true Liberal and his weight would be RC Jan 2014 #115

I agree. Fat-shaming is typical junior high behavior. BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #79

I don't think so...he is out of the norm - whether it be fat, skinny, short, tall. It is Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #80

...you do realize that that is -literally- where... Shandris Jan 2014 #82

Yes...but that is the way life is. People are all different. The people who Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #83

It goes to show how inconsistent juries can be davidpdx Jan 2014 #84

I can understand being chubby, but Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #87

Christie has lost a lot of weight recently and it's been in the news pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #88

Good, but shows he chose to be fat. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #143

He had lap-band surgery MissMillie Jan 2014 #150

You would think a man with Executive ambitions could execute a plan Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #151

Speaking of being unhealthy, no doubt you put down politicians who smoke or drink too much? radicalliberal Jan 2014 #89

Key phrase in your post: "too much" Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #181

Yes, and people who call him a fat pig are totally just concerned for his health. nt LisaLynne Jan 2014 #96

How is this relevant to my comment? nt Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #182

People who want to mock others for their weight like to immediately turn ... LisaLynne Jan 2014 #190

So what if he is obese? Ya know what DOESN'T work on getting people to eat healthy and exercise? Adrahil Jan 2014 #108

+1,000,000!! Amaril Jan 2014 #134

Wait. What part of my comment was "shaming"? Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #183

Replace pricks with cunts in your OP and see how the discourse progresses. eom TransitJohn Jan 2014 #97

True - but male privelege means only those other than males can be bothered by such--and women are The Straight Story Jan 2014 #98

said no one here, ever. Jeeze stop making shit up. You embarrass yourself with this crap. bettyellen Jan 2014 #119

word. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #138

For God's sake, one thread, ONE THREAD. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #188

Many women are offended by that word, so as decent people we should try to avoid using the slur. Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #113

Ed, you are just getting BS pushback from the libertarian wing, who would love to continue to bettyellen Jan 2014 #120

Nonsense. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #140

I'm not a libertarian or a men's rights doofus TransitJohn Jan 2014 #153

You may not be- but the original complainant is. Sorry that he is doing a piss poor job bettyellen Jan 2014 #154

Why are you choosing to make his obesity the characteristic you use to attack him BobUp Jan 2014 #99

To say he's a Republican is enough criticism fadedrose Jan 2014 #103

Exactly treestar Jan 2014 #107

Totally agree! City Lights Jan 2014 #110

Yes. n/t Orsino Jan 2014 #111

I like a fat prick now and then hootinholler Jan 2014 #112

If Christie doesn't care about his weight CFLDem Jan 2014 #116

I don't even think about it in political terms like that ("weight rights") at all. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #162

Weight Rights? No. How about human decency? Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #168

I don't care that he is overweight. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #117

You're right packman Jan 2014 #118

.... Auntie Bush Jan 2014 #126

Is "skinny" also unacceptable? another_liberal Jan 2014 #124

So we have a skinny epidemic in this country? Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #149

Self-censorship? another_liberal Jan 2014 #163

+1000 heaven05 Jan 2014 #127

We are not being, "Weightists" S.A.M Jan 2014 #129

K&R for truth LongTomH Jan 2014 #132

We do it because there are no good Democrats who are overweight Babel_17 Jan 2014 #135

Look to your own sexist insensitivities, maybe? (joking and not joking) Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #136

Should we call him Corpus Christie ... Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #141

Regarding "prick" Babel_17 Jan 2014 #145

I think instead of "prick" we should say klook Jan 2014 #152

IMO most Americans have been raised in a bully culture. It exists and is tolerated everywhere. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #146

And Jay Leno isn't exactly thin TexasBushwhacker Jan 2014 #164

Well, when he makes his jokes he doesnt exclude himself. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #178

Another way to say what you said... jtuck004 Jan 2014 #156

Is Huckabee any less loathsome now that he's lost a lot of weight? KamaAina Jan 2014 #159

I agree we shouldn't, but wait until primary season for 2016 TexasBushwhacker Jan 2014 #165

the thing about narcissist bullies hopemountain Jan 2014 #166

I totally agree. However, I can't help but be bemused that Christy definintely has to be maddiemom Jan 2014 #167

Big kick! grahamhgreen Jan 2014 #170

You're right. We shouldn't bring Jabba's weight into this. backscatter712 Jan 2014 #171

Disagree. MrModerate Jan 2014 #172

True that people hold those stereotypes or true that overweight people are typically greedy, Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #173

I believe my context was crystal clear . . . MrModerate Jan 2014 #174

The health claim is ridiculous laundry_queen Jan 2014 #180

And Obama concealed his smoking habit to the degree possible . . . MrModerate Jan 2014 #192

I agree. Its bad taste. Its obvious. Its boring. I've heard it for years. Move on to the issues. NoOneMan Jan 2014 #177

IMHO he gets the obese references as retaliation for his arrogance and self-superiority complex lindysalsagal Jan 2014 #179

We should demean him for who he is and not what he looks like Nevernose Jan 2014 #189