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Maedhros

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20. What I find disingenuous

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:42 PM

Mar 2014

Last edited Tue Mar 4, 2014, 02:50 AM - Edit history (1)

is the argument that Democrats who voted for the war only did so because the (false) evidence presented by the White House appeared to be overwhelming.

Poppycock.

Millions of us who happened not to be in Congress were able to see through the bullshit easily enough. Claiming that the Democrats in Congress were duped by the Bush Administration only serves to make me think less of them.

(They weren't duped. They saw which way the winds were blowing and thought they'd go along to get along.)

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The reason we're still fighting a pitched battle over the IWR: Revisionist History [View all] cali Mar 2014 OP

I like Hillary but I agree that was her worst moment imo. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2014 #24

I don't know if she did. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #25

I KNOW she hasn't apologized for her vote, bvar22 Mar 2014 #33

I never understood her and Schumer on that vote. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #35

Oh, I understand it. bvar22 Mar 2014 #56

Ironically, better politics would've been listening to people who knew what they were talking about Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #76

Bingo on Hillary's motives, uncaring. Wellstone's vote was popular? Well, duh? Scuba Mar 2014 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2014 #37

As I said I disagreed with her vote. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #40

Did Leahy believe Saddam had WMD? ProSense Mar 2014 #2

lol. your usual thoughtful response, pro. cali Mar 2014 #3

Did Leahy believe Bush's lie? ProSense Mar 2014 #6

care to answer ProSense's questions? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #8

It'll never happen. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #11

Speaking of which care to answer this from a week ago neverforget Mar 2014 #41

That was a ProSense Mar 2014 #46

Ok, no answer then to a simple question neverforget Mar 2014 #50

Suggestion: ProSense Mar 2014 #51

Jeez Pro. Sorry I asked you a question that you thought was a gotcha question. neverforget Mar 2014 #60

Ah, ProSense Mar 2014 #63

It's a simple question that you can clarify or you can continue to avoid neverforget Mar 2014 #65

I will ProSense Mar 2014 #66

That was then. This is now taking place under a Democratic President. neverforget Mar 2014 #69

That ProSense Mar 2014 #70

Yay! I got the neverforget Mar 2014 #71

. ProSense Mar 2014 #72

It's pretty funny isn't it? neverforget Mar 2014 #75

I've answered them over and over and over and over again cali Mar 2014 #12

Did Leahy believe Bush's lie? ProSense Mar 2014 #15

again, that matters how? stupidicus Mar 2014 #29

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #32

my my, the always hilariously _____ "LOL" defense stupidicus Mar 2014 #54

Well, stupidicus ProSense Mar 2014 #55

I see stupidicus Mar 2014 #59

Here's the thing: ProSense Mar 2014 #61

and who doubted that? stupidicus Mar 2014 #68

No, ProSense Mar 2014 #74

that's relatively meaningless alone stupidicus Mar 2014 #81

What a meaningless post... joeybee12 Mar 2014 #5

What an uninformed response. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #7

You're really ridiculous...you're trying to interject a totally unrelated joeybee12 Mar 2014 #9

No, I'm not. It's absolutely related to Leahy's position, and ProSense Mar 2014 #10

It's her SOP progressoid Mar 2014 #28

What's yours? Hi-fiving nonsensical comments? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #34

. progressoid Mar 2014 #67

Who cares? We knew better and we were proven right. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #14

I care, and it was a simple question. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #17

You didn't know. Guessing right on a 50-50 Boolean proposition doesn't mean 'you knew' nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #77

meaningless and evasive garbage stupidicus Mar 2014 #26

The "meaningless and evasive garbage" is ProSense Mar 2014 #30

I see no evidence of that stupidicus Mar 2014 #49

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #53

have somebody explain it to you stupidicus Mar 2014 #57

WMD was a really stupid term used by Bush to conflate chemical/biological and nuclear weapons Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #73

You've highlighted the problem with the OP and those who agree with her. Revisionist history. They stevenleser Mar 2014 #78

Woooo hooooooo!!!11 Fumesucker Mar 2014 #4

Remember George the Elder's original Jan 1991 speech requesting we truedelphi Mar 2014 #13

Hear! Hear! ReRe Mar 2014 #21

Day of the vote I said "This one goes on your tombstone"... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #16

complicit with a horrendous and pointless war. JEB Mar 2014 #18

Voting yes was shameful and in my book, AlbertCat Mar 2014 #36

"All the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little hand." JEB Mar 2014 #19

What I find disingenuous Maedhros Mar 2014 #20

Yep that is how I see it too. zeemike Mar 2014 #43

their votes enabled the war Enrique Mar 2014 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2014 #23

The only thing I could figure out is that they pocoloco Mar 2014 #31

This: + a brazillion. nt tblue37 Mar 2014 #27

it reminds me of Iran-Contra: when Steadman Fagoth said 10,000 Miskito had been MisterP Mar 2014 #38

They made a calculated bet that Iraq War II would go as smoothly as Iraq War I. How wrong they were! reformist2 Mar 2014 #39

...but...but ...but Bush FOOLED them!!! bvar22 Mar 2014 #42

You and I and millions of others weren't fooled but the defense for falling for the neocon neverforget Mar 2014 #64

Way recommended. H2O Man Mar 2014 #44

K&R blackspade Mar 2014 #45

Congress had a second shot at making clear its intentions. You may remember that wiggs Mar 2014 #47

Interesting, thx for the information Vattel Mar 2014 #62

none of them who voted to go to war with Iraq-- and that is exactly what they did... mike_c Mar 2014 #48

Nor I.. sendero Mar 2014 #58

recommend frwrfpos Mar 2014 #52

k&r redgreenandblue Mar 2014 #79