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14. How could they possibly be so backward?

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Mon Apr 7, 2014, 12:23 AM

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"In Finland the question of 'evaluating' teachers is irrelevant." Instead we ask.... [View all] madfloridian Apr 2014 OP

Then how can you break their unions? gratuitous Apr 2014 #1

They can sure learn from our country. Every tenured teacher shown the door.... madfloridian Apr 2014 #2

LOL! Rex Apr 2014 #3

They also haven't discovered the wonder of free-market for-profit health "care" either Doctor_J Apr 2014 #4

How could they possibly be so backward? Blue4u Apr 2014 #14

and they have an infrastructure! MisterP Apr 2014 #15

"We do the opposite of whatever the US would do." nt Mnemosyne Apr 2014 #5

Republicans destroy things by reforming them and evaluating them. gulliver Apr 2014 #6

i think there should be some kind of fair way to evaluate teachers.. what we have now isn't it. nt dionysus Apr 2014 #18

EVERY profession needs to evaluate their employees joeglow3 Apr 2014 #32

what Republicans and corporate Democrats love, they deregulate and shower with money yurbud Apr 2014 #76

Its too hard to enslave educated people...THAT is why we have what we currently do in the USA... Moostache Apr 2014 #7

Plus many recommendations-also Mira Apr 2014 #8

Dumb Finns don't get that teachers are just in it for the money and summers off. Hoppy Apr 2014 #9

Probably, since they are paid great there joeglow3 Apr 2014 #35

Sisu! longship Apr 2014 #10

ATTITUDE. K&R. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #11

.... madfloridian Apr 2014 #12

Thank the attorneys joeglow3 Apr 2014 #33

Ah Finland... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2014 #13

To get those good things, I would not mind higher taxes at all. madfloridian Apr 2014 #24

But wil things remain the same when they are annexed by Russia? Common Sense Party Apr 2014 #52

From NPR and The New Republic Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #16

Thanks for that link. Now we are even testing kindergarteners to tears. madfloridian Apr 2014 #17

Why waste money educating poor kids (or, any kids) when we can punish them? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2014 #19

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #21

Thank you, madfloridian. K&R! Enthusiast Apr 2014 #20

Great post malaise Apr 2014 #22

Sounds great. I would love to have such an experience. madfloridian Apr 2014 #23

"Finland, Finland, Finland!" "I said 'ENGLAND'!" WinkyDink Apr 2014 #25

Arne's goal here is student testing to grade teachers while giving away taxpayer money.... madfloridian Apr 2014 #26

Yup! Let's evaluate teachers and blame them.... marew Apr 2014 #27

You should get that book written. madfloridian Apr 2014 #29

The value of teacher unions Teacheral Apr 2014 #28

FL teachers have unions but mostly ways to negotiate. They have now lost tenure. madfloridian Apr 2014 #30

BTW welcome to DU madfloridian Apr 2014 #31

In Finland, they don't NEED to evaluate teachers joeglow3 Apr 2014 #34

You've pointed out the flaw of calling for the Finnish system....our teachers aren't as educated msanthrope Apr 2014 #36

many fields already produce an abundance of highly educated terminal degree professionals... mike_c Apr 2014 #65

By this time I thought we would have learned. This whole thing regarding schools in the US is about jwirr Apr 2014 #37

They figured out how to stop folks from fighting back.... madfloridian Apr 2014 #38

Exactly. This might be one of those places where we have to start taking schools back by paying jwirr Apr 2014 #39

How does he know they need help, what kind, where, how much, and who? Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #40

See? The propaganda from Reagan on has worked. madfloridian Apr 2014 #43

I don't know what Reagan had to say about education and I don't care... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #45

Dang! There are so many objectives and so much testing there is no time to teach. madfloridian Apr 2014 #48

Define "a lot" please. What percentage? I suspect the percentage is low... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #69

"across the board objective standards and testing" has ruined the education system in America Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #53

Wonderful video. madfloridian Apr 2014 #54

That's nice, but we NEED objective standards and testing... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #70

Yes, we need some of that, of course. But it has gone so far in that direction to such an extreme it Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #73

Well, we do need students to be able to pass their tests... Demo_Chris Apr 2014 #74

I find that anecdote telling--- msanthrope Apr 2014 #46

Amazing how teachers buck the trend of every other profession joeglow3 Apr 2014 #67

When are we going to learn? Auntie Bush Apr 2014 #41

Good points. madfloridian Apr 2014 #44

You don't need evaluations or standards ..... oldhippie Apr 2014 #42

And we see the results of our policies over the decades. An ignorant population trained NOT TO THINK sabrina 1 Apr 2014 #47

Preparing people to be good workers. madfloridian Apr 2014 #49

I think in Scandinavia countries (although this may have changed) the idea of doing job evaluations Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #50

I think back to when I watched the Ron Howard movie...Gung Ho madfloridian Apr 2014 #56

K&R.... daleanime Apr 2014 #51

Privtaize, Nite Owl Apr 2014 #55

And Finnish kids actually do a lot better academically than those in most countries! LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #57

What I fear so much.... madfloridian Apr 2014 #59

Tell me about it; we have Michael bloody Gove as our Education Secretary! LeftishBrit Apr 2014 #60

I have done some reading about Gove. madfloridian Apr 2014 #63

Obama, get a clue and notice this. Vattel Apr 2014 #58

Kick! FloriTexan Apr 2014 #61

Thanks for the kick. madfloridian Apr 2014 #64

Respect and value education? progressoid Apr 2014 #62

knr Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #66

I just don't understand this demonization of US teachers. It's completely bizarre. K&R nt. Jasana Apr 2014 #68

k&r Starry Messenger Apr 2014 #71

The Finnish kids actually learn, which is much more than our kids are doing amandabeech Apr 2014 #72

blasphemy! We should ask "How can we help Wall Street?" yurbud Apr 2014 #75