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muriel_volestrangler

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7. Yes:
Fri Apr 18, 2014, 05:51 AM
Apr 2014
When this event comes around next year, I hope we'll see more questions on surveillance programs and other controversial policies. But we don't have to wait until then. For example, journalists might ask for clarification as to how millions of individuals' communications are not being intercepted, analysed or stored, when, at least on a technical level, the systems that are in place must do precisely that in order to function. They might ask whether the social media companies reporting that they have received bulk collection requests from the Russian government are telling the truth.

Link goes to:

Russia to monitor 'all communications' at Winter Olympics in Sochi

Exclusive: Investigation uncovers FSB surveillance system – branded 'Prism on steroids' – to listen to all athletes and visitors

Athletes and spectators attending the Winter Olympics in Sochi in February will face some of the most invasive and systematic spying and surveillance in the history of the Games, documents shared with the Guardian show.

Russia's powerful FSB security service plans to ensure that no communication by competitors or spectators goes unmonitored during the event, according to a dossier compiled by a team of Russian investigative journalists looking into preparations for the 2014 Games.
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The journalists, Andrei Soldatov and Irina Borogan, who are experts on the Russian security services, collated dozens of open source technical documents published on the Zakupki government procurement agency website, as well as public records of government oversight agencies. They found that major amendments have been made to telephone and Wi-Fi networks in the Black Sea resort to ensure extensive and all-permeating monitoring and filtering of all traffic, using Sorm, Russia's system for intercepting phone and internet communications.
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Another target may well be gay rights, likely to be one of the biggest issues of the Games. Putin has said that competitors who wear rainbow pins, for example, will not be arrested under the country's controversial new law that bans "homosexual propaganda". However, it is likely that any attempts to stage any kind of rally or gathering to support gay rights will be ruthlessly broken up by police, as has been the case on numerous occasions in Russian cities in the past. Using DPI, Russian authorities will be able to identify, tag and follow all visitors to the Olympics, both Russian and foreign, who are discussing gay issues, and possibly planning to organise protests.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/06/russia-monitor-communications-sochi-winter-olympics


Guess what the first comment on DU was when that was posted here? Inevitably, it was snark about Snowden. In fact, there were an incredible number of childish posts calling Snowden names. As someone said, it looks Pavlovian.

So, yes, Snowden does criticise the Russian surveillance system.
Sounds like he's playing us now. I'm not falling for it. nt AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #15
+1 Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #25
explain to me how this was of any benefit to Putin.. frylock Apr 2014 #37
how is pitching set up softball questions to any politician to their benefit? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #41
you believe Putin was telling the truth? frylock Apr 2014 #45
no. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #50
okay, so you think the people of Russia are stupid morons? frylock Apr 2014 #52
no. but while you can't fool all the people all the time arely staircase Apr 2014 #57
that's really profound frylock Apr 2014 #61
This was an immense PR coup by Putin, and there's no other way to look at it Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #56
putin is on record as lying about the surveillance state in russia.. frylock Apr 2014 #66
Why not? Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #74
so what can snowden do, short of punching putin in the cock on satellite TV, to satisfy you? frylock Apr 2014 #77
For starters? Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #80
you may have a lot of links... grasswire Apr 2014 #82
these people have never played a game of poker in their lives.. frylock Apr 2014 #83
What if I told you Snowden isn't playing chess, Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #85
this was of no benefit whatsoever to putin! frylock Apr 2014 #87
Oh, for the love of god... Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #84
you'll never get it. grasswire Apr 2014 #89
So Snowden is now on the same level as Ghandi and MLK? Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #92
Fabulous post. Amazing. Number23 Apr 2014 #91
Oh, he's a wiley one, that Edward! randome Apr 2014 #2
+1 flamingdem Apr 2014 #32
it isn't working, vlad nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #3
is there any criticism of Putins surveillance in there? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #4
Yes: muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #7
I took the first part to be a jab at obama arely staircase Apr 2014 #8
Well, then, I'm glad to have corrected you on that muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #10
we shall see arely staircase Apr 2014 #11
I don't know what the consequences will be muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #12
fair enough nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #13
of course you did, because that's your default setting. frylock Apr 2014 #38
and yours is what? arely staircase Apr 2014 #44
i'm more into policy than i am personality.. frylock Apr 2014 #47
your not a Democrat? arely staircase Apr 2014 #49
hey, you're welcome for all the votes.. frylock Apr 2014 #54
do what you feel is right nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #59
all damn day frylock Apr 2014 #62
Everybody should criticize his own side. Edim Apr 2014 #72
that is my point arely staircase Apr 2014 #73
Screw Snowden... TreasonousBastard Apr 2014 #5
snowden is all about his own fame ProdigalJunkMail Apr 2014 #6
YAWN B Calm Apr 2014 #9
Is he still there? pipoman Apr 2014 #14
Friends! Romans! Countrymen, lend me your ears! I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him! stevenleser Apr 2014 #16
Well said. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #17
Here is the sad truth for Snowden supporters. If he survives this, it was a sham. stevenleser Apr 2014 #18
So you're saying Putin supports this op-ed too? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #19
Putin is trying to re-establish Russia's sphere of influence theboss Apr 2014 #20
What does the evidence suggest to you? Ask Khodorkovsky and Litvinenko what they think stevenleser Apr 2014 #21
The evidence suggests you're saying Putin got Snowden to write this muriel_volestrangler Apr 2014 #22
Putin doesn't care about the publicity. If he did, he wouldn't have killed Litvinenko like he did. stevenleser Apr 2014 #24
"might regain credibility in the eyes of his hardcore supporters." NCTraveler Apr 2014 #28
I am trying to be generous to fellow DUers who are prolly struggling with cognitive dissonance stevenleser Apr 2014 #31
I do think most of them will get it. Not all, but most. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #33
more projection frylock Apr 2014 #42
projection? arely staircase Apr 2014 #48
hunh? frylock Apr 2014 #51
invest in a dictionary arely staircase Apr 2014 #53
i'll get right on that sir! frylock Apr 2014 #55
me too arely staircase Apr 2014 #64
adios muchacho frylock Apr 2014 #65
right on the money, steven arely staircase Apr 2014 #46
+1 Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #34
how was this of any benefit to Putin? frylock Apr 2014 #39
And boom goes the dynamite...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #40
Great...Now he's playing the "I meant to do that" -card to save face? Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #23
Anyone who believes that his question to Putin sufrommich Apr 2014 #26
He has gone so far that no one can back him up on this. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #27
And that's up to the Russian Citizens 2banon Apr 2014 #29
Snowjob has such a brilliant mind that he doesn't even notice the puppet strings. tridim Apr 2014 #30
I can't wait to hear Bill Maher's take on this. He thinks Snowden's a fuckin' idiot, and I agree. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #35
As do I. mimi85 Apr 2014 #36
That's what I think too..his goose is cooked...Russian style HipChick Apr 2014 #43
Yup. Stick a fork in him, he's pretty much done. NPR seems to agree. Even people who've supported Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #76
Who cares what Bill Maher thinks. Seriously. elias49 Apr 2014 #60
Yet he's still on the air, after all these years. Must suck for you, huh? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #75
Nah. I just stopped watching a few months ago. elias49 Apr 2014 #93
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2014 #58
Sorry Willy, but ya gotta admit that Snowden really screwed himself Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #68
Snowden is on the right side of history. grasswire Apr 2014 #63
but but but why doesn't snowden care about the surveillance state in russia? frylock Apr 2014 #67
that's a smearmater for you - just like his buddy - Smearmaster Greenwald Douglas Carpenter Apr 2014 #69
He fell (or raced) into Putin's lap elfin Apr 2014 #70
So ProSense Apr 2014 #71
Keep flapping. grasswire Apr 2014 #78
Too funny ProSense Apr 2014 #79
Flap away. grasswire Apr 2014 #81
Wrong. I think you guys have come to believe your own nonsense, and that's just tragic. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #86
you might want to go browse the 800 or so comments... grasswire Apr 2014 #88
A scientific poll vs. the comment section of a newspaper? Hmmm. Which one to believe? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #90
WTF? jazzimov Apr 2014 #94
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