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99. Unless someone actually saw what PRECEDED the shooting, it's still not proof of anything.

Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:14 AM

Mar 2012

Another witness saw Trayvon on top and yelled for him to quit it. He went inside to call the police but before he could, shots rang out and when he looked out the window, GZ was over Tray's body

But since you like these news stories, here's one from yesterday evening during RUSH HOUR (not middle of the night) on the South Side of Chicago. Actually, there was more than one shooting, but this one wounded five and killed one in a convenience store. The two thug shooters WORE HOODIES! Imagine that! I never heard of criminals doing so! http://www.suntimes.com/11613495-417/two-killed-11-wounded-in-thursday-shootings.html

So I am awaiting the instructions from Operation Push on where the rally will be held for these poor victims. As President Dreamboat instructed, I'm gonna put on my marching shoes...

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OMG!! A witness was actually watching the struggle as the shot went off and turns out it was GZ on [View all] Ecumenist Mar 2012 OP

I'm not following. Please clarify. hlthe2b Mar 2012 #1

The witness SAW THE STRUGGLE THAT ENDED IN TRAYVON'S DEATH! Ecumenist Mar 2012 #6

Another female witnessed mentioned that Zimmerman had his hands up as well. Lilyeye Mar 2012 #98

Mary Cutcher and her roomie. She's the one that was insistent that the screams she heard weren't Ecumenist Mar 2012 #100

It's a previously unknown, (TO THE PUBLIC) witness. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #13

if you listen to all the 911 calls, there is agirl who called 911, whose brothe was outside watching robinlynne Mar 2012 #109

ok, E CatWoman Mar 2012 #2

I had to read it a few times also qanda Mar 2012 #4

That certainly explains why GZ had no grass stains on him. Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #7

Has anyone check ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #16

The incompetent (corrupt?) Sanford police should have taken pictures Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #25

No question mark needed. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #27

It's absolutely impossible for any law enforcement officer to be that incompetent. TrollBuster9090 Mar 2012 #57

Well said. n/t Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #58

"What Zimmerman did was bad enough, A Simple Game Mar 2012 #62

I think you miss the big picture. Zimmerman committed a hate crime. But the police and DA robinlynne Mar 2012 #77

You know what, if there were no Zimmermans, there would be A Simple Game Mar 2012 #85

If police and state attorneys didn't cover up hate crimes against young black men, then people MADem Mar 2012 #115

When justice is derailed Aerows Mar 2012 #89

No we will never know how many people died because of poor police and attorneys. A Simple Game Mar 2012 #110

I disagree with this statement Aerows Mar 2012 #111

I don't disagree with your statement. A Simple Game Mar 2012 #112

Once again Aerows Mar 2012 #113

More people die WeekendWarrior Mar 2012 #105

I think your version is probably the most correct Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #64

I read there were no photos of the crime scene. robinlynne Mar 2012 #76

That part I don't know. I suspect that will be presented once the autopsy Ecumenist Mar 2012 #26

My, my! Stop making sense, now! You'll upset the status quo! MADem Mar 2012 #114

YES!!!!!! Ecumenist Mar 2012 #8

Yes! Ecumenist Mar 2012 #47

Okay. Anderson Cooper interviewed this particular witness who SAW THE ENTIRE FINAL STRUGGLE! Ecumenist Mar 2012 #12

wonder what Joe Oliver has to say about this??? CatWoman Mar 2012 #21

I wonder what he has to say about this myself. I have a feeling that we might just be Ecumenist Mar 2012 #24

His 15 minutes of fame have to end sooner or later politicasista Mar 2012 #36

Haven't seen much of Joe since the police station video was released Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 #68

that's cause he's trying to cash that check before the stop payment is issued CatWoman Mar 2012 #72

I'll bet these witnesses told the police what they saw on that day. robinlynne Mar 2012 #78

Wow! qanda Mar 2012 #3

amen Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #5

I knew it, I knew it. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #10

who is this witness? grasswire Mar 2012 #9

He's anonymous for now. They even changed his voice for his protection but he's given his Ecumenist Mar 2012 #11

Thank heavens... I just hope there is no way for his credibility to be put in question... hlthe2b Mar 2012 #14

He's going to go into a more in depth interview on his show tonight. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #15

Actually, it makes the video make sense now. That's why there's no blood on his clothes. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #17

I'm only guessing but I think it might be the other guy on the 911 phone call TrollBuster9090 Mar 2012 #59

Yeah it did, take place close to their home. You're probably correct. It's the person Ecumenist Mar 2012 #61

Yes, I heard that while listening to the tapes. He also Blue_Roses Mar 2012 #90

That was a different tape than the one with the Fawke Em Mar 2012 #93

Isn't it disgustingly obvious what this "man" meant to do AND did? Ecumenist Mar 2012 #95

there were 8 911 calls. there are probably several witnesses who at least heard everything. robinlynne Mar 2012 #79

Why is this witness just coming forward? It has been over a month. n/t RebelOne Mar 2012 #18

Apparently, he's not just come forward. We're just finding out about him. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #19

so how did his head get bashed on cement? grasswire Mar 2012 #20

EXACTLY...IT DIDN'T!! Explains why it doesn't appear to look as if that happened Ecumenist Mar 2012 #22

I wonder if he said that because he had a heads up about this witness telling his story Ecumenist Mar 2012 #23

Doesn't this make it seem like Judge Daddy is lying to cover up K8-EEE Mar 2012 #28

Yep, it does. Considering that this makes 3 witnesses who say that GZ was ON TOP Ecumenist Mar 2012 #31

It's possible. USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #33

Considering the EXTREMELY SHORT period of time between the shot and when mary Cutcher Ecumenist Mar 2012 #35

I'm not sure what that has to do with it. USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #39

The reason I ask the question is because according to at least 3 witnesses, Trayvon was face down Ecumenist Mar 2012 #42

If true (and I'm not doubting it) USArmyParatrooper Mar 2012 #44

That's what I'm saying. I don;t understand how he could have shot him in the chest Ecumenist Mar 2012 #46

And after flipping over a body with a gaping chest wound Aerows Mar 2012 #91

BAM! Aerows, this is what I was saying from the beginning. How could he not have Ecumenist Mar 2012 #96

I don't see a way Aerows Mar 2012 #102

There are several witnesses who say they heard 2 gunshots. Now, if what you propose is true, Ecumenist Mar 2012 #103

I don't know Aerows Mar 2012 #107

Why would the charge be manslaughter, and not murder? robinlynne Mar 2012 #80

Intent leftynyc Mar 2012 #87

Could this witness tell if Trayvon was facing upward or lying face down? MagickMuffin Mar 2012 #40

Yes, he saw GZ on top of trayvon and when Gz got up after shooting trayvon, Ecumenist Mar 2012 #43

Well it sure appears that GZ "wasn't going to let him get away" and that GZ went a hunting MagickMuffin Mar 2012 #52

Honey, that' quite alright, you're not doing anything but telling the truth. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #53

The funeral director could answer that pronto. EmeraldCityGrl Mar 2012 #48

an article I read today said that the funeral director couldn't Bluerthanblue Mar 2012 #56

more than a possibility. witness says he was shot in the back magical thyme Mar 2012 #49

WOA....ARE YOU SERIOUS? I KNEW it, I KNEW It, I KNEW IT! Ecumenist Mar 2012 #50

yes, I'm serious. link below magical thyme Mar 2012 #55

I don't think GZ shot him while he was on the kid's back. intheflow Mar 2012 #75

At this point Aerows Mar 2012 #92

Not necessarily - the father had no first hand independent information karynnj Mar 2012 #38

and what about prior arrests when he got his son off? magical thyme Mar 2012 #51

I'm not saying the denial is logical or reasonable karynnj Mar 2012 #74

oh I agree, I'm sure it is difficult magical thyme Mar 2012 #84

is this the video? warrior1 Mar 2012 #29

Is what in what video? Ecumenist Mar 2012 #30

Whoever that was says that Zimmerman didn't appear hurt after the shot. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2012 #34

No, it's was a heretofore unknown(to the public) witness that saw the final struggle. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #37

Should be interesting. I hope this is streaming somewhere. Glimmer of Hope Mar 2012 #41

If you can, tune into AndersonCooper and it will probably stream after the show if you Ecumenist Mar 2012 #45

the video of the witness interview warrior1 Mar 2012 #32

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2012 #54

Arrest the murderer malaise Mar 2012 #60

story has so many twists and turns Liberal_in_LA Mar 2012 #63

Tomorrow there will be some kind of surprise revelation that ponts to Zimmerman's innocence slackmaster Mar 2012 #65

Only because the liars tried to make sure that only what they wanted to say Ecumenist Mar 2012 #67

exactly! robinlynne Mar 2012 #81

Why is ANYONE giving fucking interviews?? randome Mar 2012 #66

BOTH sides are doing it but I'm sure that there's alot that isn't coming out Ecumenist Mar 2012 #69

Respectfully, it doesn't matter who started it. randome Mar 2012 #70

This isn't the first time this has happened. To a certain extent, it began with Rodney King Ecumenist Mar 2012 #71

i only see Trayvon's fmaily asking for justice. I ahve not heard them amking up stories about what robinlynne Mar 2012 #83

I'd ordinarily agree with that stranger81 Mar 2012 #73

That may be exactly why they're doing it. robinlynne Mar 2012 #82

Zimmerman still hasn't been arrested. This is a way to foment public pressure for morningfog Mar 2012 #86

The Sanford Police Department Aerows Mar 2012 #88

LOL!! that's so true. After all, the cookie jar is responsible for making the cookies available Ecumenist Mar 2012 #94

Surely it must be true if Anderson Cooper and Nancy Grace say it is, LOL. just1voice Mar 2012 #97

Of course. You do know that we can always tell by what you say right away. Ecumenist Mar 2012 #101

Unless someone actually saw what PRECEDED the shooting, it's still not proof of anything. the moon is fake Mar 2012 #99

live it up, troll n/t grasswire Mar 2012 #104

Only thing to do is laugh. ceile Mar 2012 #106

oh how sweet--you learned our smileys already librechik Mar 2012 #108