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MannyGoldstein

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18. He doesn't have the documents anymore.

Tue Jun 3, 2014, 07:34 PM

Jun 2014

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The press has them. And his agreement with the press IIRC is that nothing is to be made public that could conceivably actually hurt the US. We also know he had access to an incredible stash of documents, but we don't know if he had access to emails - that's usually a separate thing (files vs. email server).

So he might be BSing us - but there are reasonable explanations for what he has and hasn't disclosed.

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Snowden: I Had More Access Than Almost Any Other Official [View all] struggle4progress Jun 2014 OP

Of course he had more access than any other official, HE'S A DOUBLE NAUGHT SPY!!! MohRokTah Jun 2014 #1

don't see enough Hillbillies quotes arely staircase Jun 2014 #9

With all that top-level access, he STILL couldn't get proof of his claims. randome Jun 2014 #2

shit he apparantly doesn't know how to work expedia or travelocity. arely staircase Jun 2014 #11

Right.. High Level Super Spy couldn't quite pull Cha Jun 2014 #38

Dribble dribble dribble, next he will be saying he wrote our Constitution also. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #3

He has some sort of martyr syndrome, I guess. randome Jun 2014 #7

Now that was some kind of news, like the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #12

What assignment with the NRA? sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #53

Sounds like he may have been a frequent guest of Holiday Inn Express...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #4

+1 krawhitham Jun 2014 #26

Waiting for the delusional Snowdenistas to stop by & attempt to defend this one... baldguy Jun 2014 #5

they'll claim it's a bad translation. KittyWampus Jun 2014 #25

Calling DUers delusional is a response to the OP? As one of those 'delusional Snowdenistas' and sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #54

Snowdens claims about himself have always been full of lies baldguy Jun 2014 #69

Really? Chelsea Manning, do you remember the access that 'low level' analyst had to just sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #72

Depending on how the security was set up, if he was the systen administrator, he may djean111 Jun 2014 #6

What he revealed was true. merrily Jun 2014 #23

He had access to virtually everything. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #8

+ Infinity. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #14

then why hasn't he shown us anything but a fisa court order nt arely staircase Jun 2014 #16

He doesn't have the documents anymore. MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #18

good gawd almighty. so when to we get to see this important stuff? arely staircase Jun 2014 #22

Because Americans have a short attention span and the effort would be lost with one dump. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #30

There are more than 100 programs or NSA capabilities revealed in the press based on Snowden's docs. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #32

thx for the link! Vattel Jun 2014 #35

You are welcome! Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #36

Excellent resource. Thank you. woo me with science Jun 2014 #41

Agreed... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #44

Staggering incompetence. joshcryer Jun 2014 #51

Er... so he's saying he'll face court in the US provided they make everything he did legal? LadyHawkAZ Jun 2014 #10

We will give him access to the courts, see if he is going to show up. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #13

The Espionage Act is unusual and rarely used, in part because MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #15

You can't think clearly if you don't get your facts right, and "The Obama Administration struggle4progress Jun 2014 #42

You're right. I forgot the words "for whistle blowing or leaking information." MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #43

To regard Snowden's activities as "whistle-blowing," you have to define "whistle-blowing" struggle4progress Jun 2014 #63

Government workers. The Obama Admin has prosecuted more government workers than all other Presidents Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #65

Making stuff up doesn't help us move in a positive direction either struggle4progress Jun 2014 #67

Apparently he doesn't understand that changes in the law aren't typically retroactive: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #17

No. He's not referring the parts of the law governing his "crime". dawg Jun 2014 #19

Nope. Snowden's been purposefully charged under the Espionage Act riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #21

retro-active immunity Fred Drum Jun 2014 #70

A priori some seem to know that this is false" Vattel Jun 2014 #20

I used to be a system adminstrator. Yes, I could see all of the information. djean111 Jun 2014 #24

access to govt systems HipChick Jun 2014 #39

LIHOP is my running theory. joshcryer Jun 2014 #47

everything is logged, lmao Fred Drum Jun 2014 #71

Well, a coworker, in the press, said that Snowden had all the keys because he was given the keys. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #33

Well there it is! Several posts showing why he had this access. Thanks! nt Mojorabbit Jun 2014 #37

It is certainly true. joshcryer Jun 2014 #46

...except for emails proving he went through proper channels questioning NSA practices uponit7771 Jun 2014 #27

And, If he to you what he knew, he would have to kill you liberal N proud Jun 2014 #28

And when that didn't work BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #29

Duped? Aerows Jun 2014 #49

Except he didn't have your apparently innate powers of deduction BeyondGeography Jun 2014 #58

I have extremely poor eyesight Aerows Jun 2014 #74

BushInc. blm Jun 2014 #31

I would think you would be reluctant to use National Journal as a source.. grasswire Jun 2014 #34

Nowadays I can already get a whopping dose of anti-Obama propaganda here at DU struggle4progress Jun 2014 #40

I'm waiting for the list of names Aerows Jun 2014 #45

? He's beginning to sound somewhat inflated in his self-importance ... Hekate Jun 2014 #48

I'm waiting for the list of names Aerows Jun 2014 #50

What's the maximum sentence for violating the Fourth Amendment? jberryhill Jun 2014 #55

It's not a violation of the fourth amendment. stevenleser Jun 2014 #59

I wasn't asking if there was a violation jberryhill Jun 2014 #61

That's what makes me suspicious... Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #52

He was asked the question... how did you get access... Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #64

Did you expect Snowden to tell the truth? randome Jun 2014 #68

Actually I expected the question to not get asked at all Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #73

Thank you Edward Snowden. SamKnause Jun 2014 #56

yes, thank you Edward Snowden. nt grasswire Jun 2014 #66

Less than 3 months at BAH. moondust Jun 2014 #57

It's a good thing the justice department has stocked up on kryptonite... stevenleser Jun 2014 #60

So, nobody at NSA had access to all this stuff? jberryhill Jun 2014 #62