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Contradiction: 9/24/13 secret rendition jet and 9/27/13 Obama statement on Snowden [View all] grasswire Jun 2014 OP

thanks to n2doc for finding that original article about the plane grasswire Jun 2014 #1

That article offers zero proof of its assertions. None at all. I read it twice looking... stevenleser Jun 2014 #49

Huh. So I guess they were out of good Danish Pastries in DC then. Pholus Jun 2014 #54

Given an hour I could come up with around 60 theories. All of them with the same level of proof as stevenleser Jun 2014 #55

Cue the Nelson voice: "Ha-Ha" Pholus Jun 2014 #69

Nope, still an epic fail in terms of anything resembling not only proof, but a hint of correlation. stevenleser Jun 2014 #76

Oh well. My ally is time. Today we found out that despite VIGOROUS denials... Pholus Jun 2014 #77

At this point anything is possible because nothing has been proved or disproved. stevenleser Jun 2014 #83

If you say so. For me there were all KINDS of gems in there. Pholus Jun 2014 #92

I'm not ticked off. Flying a plane to Cleveland doesnt make sense to pick someone up from Miami stevenleser Jun 2014 #95

Yup, just like the hamhanded diplomacy about Evo's plane -- there is no evidence -- YET. Pholus Jun 2014 #106

Cannot even tell if you are being serious. n-t Logical Jun 2014 #72

It's no use. There is now yet another story out, proving that the Left was right again, as usual, sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #85

No contradiction. Contrary1 Jun 2014 #2

I thought perhaps it was a rogue operation by the spooks. grasswire Jun 2014 #3

Something like 900 people a year are extradited to the US: struggle4progress Jun 2014 #26

Extradition snd rendition sre two different things riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #33

Hmmm. Actually, the term "rendition" in its standard use means an extradition-like transfer, struggle4progress Jun 2014 #35

Good post Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #38

Always Bobbie Jo Jun 2014 #65

Help me out here Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #4

help yourself out grasswire Jun 2014 #6

I read it twice and the source seems very sketchy Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #7

What? You distrust "a member of an internet aircraft-tracking network run by enthusiasts in the UK"? struggle4progress Jun 2014 #21

We both read the article twice. It offers absolutely zero proof of the allegation. stevenleser Jun 2014 #50

True, correlation does not prove causation... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #78

It's not a suggestive coincidence at all. Tons of these jets fly around all the time. stevenleser Jun 2014 #80

"For folks who have even a little bit of knowledge,"... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #86

PERFECT! HangOnKids Jun 2014 #89

Yep, I have a little bit of knowledge on this. You don't have any. See how that works? nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #94

Geez, I agree with your own self-assessment... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #98

You mentioned evasiveness below? You had no clue that these planes fly around all the time... stevenleser Jun 2014 #100

Wow, talk about no clue... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #109

Addressing the actual point is much more difficult than going for the irrelevant cheap-shot LanternWaste Jun 2014 #107

There was no point to address... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #108

BTW I notice you avoided my question: ljm2002 Jun 2014 #88

I didn't avoid it. It asks to prove a negative, like proving telepathy doesnt exist. stevenleser Jun 2014 #93

Not this shite again... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #96

Read my post again. It says "Nothing can be ruled out". Speaking of not this shite again... stevenleser Jun 2014 #97

"like proving telepathy doesn't exist" ljm2002 Jun 2014 #99

So you are only capable of reading the subjects of messages? Good to know. I'll stop there each time stevenleser Jun 2014 #101

You're going to modify your posting practices... ljm2002 Jun 2014 #102

Only when responding to you, since that's all you seem to read. nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #103

"Tons" of known rendition jets are flying around all the time? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #104

Don't try to keep up with their conspiracy theories... SidDithers Jun 2014 #8

LOL. Snowden was a pretty public figure at that point Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #10

it's more exciting that way JI7 Jun 2014 #12

Yes. It's all about romanticizing the story treestar Jun 2014 #71

This^^^ Egnever Jun 2014 #13

Thanks Obama! Cha Jun 2014 #24

. Egnever Jun 2014 #25

The point is... little CT on the internet Cha Jun 2014 #23

That's why you use pictures. Octafish Jun 2014 #43

Yup. Often the CTers only understand pictures and simple words...nt SidDithers Jun 2014 #53

Which doesn't explain why you never post anything about criminal conspiracies. Octafish Jun 2014 #56

That plane has frequently been in Europe struggle4progress Jun 2014 #17

Obama knew and ordered. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #5

Knew and ordered what? There is as much proof that the plane was ordered by you and sent to stevenleser Jun 2014 #51

the "sketchy" credentials of the investigative journalist reporting this grasswire Jun 2014 #9

His creds or lack thereof don't matter when he offered zero proof of his assertions. nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #52

I'm pretty sure the operative word here is "SECRET" underthematrix Jun 2014 #11

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2014 #14

"We now know" and "allegedly" don't mean the same thing. It's alleged. It's not known pnwmom Jun 2014 #15

duh grasswire Jun 2014 #81

More lies. woo me with science Jun 2014 #16

LOL Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #18

Lies, abuse of power, and propaganda. woo me with science Jun 2014 #27

So how exactly was this alleged rendition flight supposed to get Snowden Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #37

Lord, I hope not. woo me with science Jun 2014 #44

You never even answered my question... Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #61

You're not getting an answer ... NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #87

Bingo Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #90

Maybe by flying? HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #105

Plus one a whole bunch. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #20

It's every single day. woo me with science Jun 2014 #28

Does not take long..... micraphone Jun 2014 #19

1000 miles is "so close"? WTF? There are NATO bases in the Baltics much closer. stevenleser Jun 2014 #47

. struggle4progress Jun 2014 #22

The President was asked on 9.27.13 Crabby Appleton Jun 2014 #29

it's a "meaning of 'is'" moment, then. grasswire Jun 2014 #36

That's pretty good and quick pouncing on your post! djean111 Jun 2014 #30

+1 Yup. Posts in any way connected to NSA spying get top priority from the propaganda/smear brigade. woo me with science Jun 2014 #31

If these posters are indeed actual people, and not managed personas, Maedhros Jun 2014 #60

:) woo me with science Jun 2014 #79

"Scramble" usually refers to fighter jets... farmbo Jun 2014 #32

Thanks grass..for keeping on top of this. elias49 Jun 2014 #34

probably driven to distraction by "cleaning up" Bush's crap :sarcasm: MisterP Jun 2014 #39

good question... nt G_j Jun 2014 #40

The United States forced down the Bolivian President's jet. Octafish Jun 2014 #41

. struggle4progress Jun 2014 #45

Interesting. Octafish Jun 2014 #46

The US did nothing of the sort. The jet was forced down in Europe. Now, if you are making stevenleser Jun 2014 #48

Forcing it down...denying it fuel...letting it crash into the Atlantic...What's the difference? Octafish Jun 2014 #57

Facts matter. You had yours wrong. Are you going to own up to it or not? nt stevenleser Jun 2014 #58

So I need to write that the United States forced the jet down in Europe? Octafish Jun 2014 #59

Feedin folk bullshizz is just another way to feck over their minds IMO struggle4progress Jun 2014 #64

Indeed! grasswire Jun 2014 #82

It is the same FUBAR in "foreign relations", "diplomacy" and complicity that came with not changing bobthedrummer Jun 2014 #42

Was it confirmed that this jet was specifically headed towards Moscow? Blue_Tires Jun 2014 #62

Absolutely confirmed! NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #63

But, but, but.. Cha Jun 2014 #70

Flight 370 treestar Jun 2014 #74

Easily explained treestar Jun 2014 #73

Kick, given new WaPo story on the topic. nt elias49 Jun 2014 #66

thanks!! nt grasswire Jun 2014 #67

hmm...weasel words grasswire Jun 2014 #68

"allegedly" treestar Jun 2014 #75

I wish the Paulbots hadn't invaded DU. 6000eliot Jun 2014 #84

They did? Who? Where? ljm2002 Jun 2014 #91