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In reply to the discussion: Contradiction: 9/24/13 secret rendition jet and 9/27/13 Obama statement on Snowden [View all]ljm2002
(10,751 posts)Last edited Tue Jun 17, 2014, 09:43 PM - Edit history (1)
...you are showing us all how to do it.
So let's go point-by-point here:
1 - You say "you apparently had no idea there are NATO bases in the Baltics 500 miles closer to Moscow than Copenhagen".
How did you come up with this? I have not discussed NATO bases or airport proximity with you or anyone else, although I have followed some of the discussions with interest. So please, cite anything from any of my posts showing me talking about these specifics and showing my supposed ignorance on the topic.
2 - You say "if the Russians were going to turn him over or negotiations were going on about that, there is no reason the jet couldnt (sic) have flown to Moscow and waited there"
Okay, sure. But then Putin never turned Snowden over, did he? Nor was there ever any indication that he might do so. Therefore your scenario is non-operational.
3 - You say "you don't seem to be able to acknowledge there is no proof offered in the article.
So did you miss my statement upthread: "So no, there is no proof that jet was flown to Europe to pick up Edward Snowden." I guess you want me to use your words instead of my own. Okay: there is no proof offered in the article.
Here is my challenge to you, from that same post: "I'm willing to say I don't know for sure whether that jet was in Europe to pick up Snowden. Are you willing to admit that it might have been?" Are you now willing to use my words: That jet might have been in Europe to pick up Snowden. It is after all one possibility, certainly a more likely one than that it was there to pick up aliens from Jupiter.
4 - You say "everything in this sub-thread has been you trying to avoid acknowledging that" (that there is no proof in the article).
As I have demonstrated, that point was addressed early on in our exchange -- you not only missed it, you persist in denying it.
5 - You say "You have to really understand what is being said to you first"
See point 4, and then ponder the wonder that is the simple hand mirror.