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hobbit709

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12. Which is also spelled out in Article V.

Reply to MohRokTah (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:57 PM

Jun 2014

So you want to use Article V as justification against doing it at the same time you use it as justification for.

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California has just called for an Articale V Convention [View all] NCcoast Jun 2014 OP

Woo Hoo !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2014 #1

Worst. Idea. EVER! MohRokTah Jun 2014 #2

And then 3/4 of the states will ratify those changes? NCcoast Jun 2014 #3

Better go looking at what party controls the legislatures of the states. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #5

Not a red-blue issue. radiclib Jun 2014 #21

Of course they are in favor of it Bartlet Jun 2014 #23

Bing! Bing! Bing! Bing! Bing! longship Jun 2014 #25

the Freepers are rejoicing about this. grasswire Jun 2014 #30

Maybe you could provide me a link to that rejoicing NCcoast Jun 2014 #57

"(BTW, fleas suck ones blood.)" Plucketeer Jun 2014 #36

Exactly why I am afraid of this method dragonlady Jun 2014 #71

So you're opposed to ever amending the constitution in any way? hobbit709 Jun 2014 #4

Nope, just in the way it's been done the entire existence of the nation. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #6

I guess you like going around in steadily decreasing circles. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #7

No, I don't like risking the constitutiion to the whims of reps chosen by state legislatures. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #9

And just how do expect to change anything except as outlined in Article V? hobbit709 Jun 2014 #10

Use the same method that has been used as long as we have existed. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #11

Which is also spelled out in Article V. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #12

You're going in circles. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #14

Just following you. hobbit709 Jun 2014 #15

Yes you are, and you have tightened the noose until it looks like he choked. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #78

But that takes too long ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #56

You do realize the convention only PROPOSES amendments, right? It doesn't ratify anything. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #18

38 states have Republican legislatures MohRokTah Jun 2014 #26

And that's the case for ANY amendment. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #39

Only if you get it through Congress first. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #41

Republicans don't have close to 3/4 of state legislatures. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #43

It took 202 years to ratify the 27th amendment. tclambert Jun 2014 #46

Political will is required. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #48

A fucking straw man argument. longship Jun 2014 #28

The OP says "Article V Convention" What part of "Convention" do you not understand" yellowcanine Jun 2014 #67

Total nonsense. radiclib Jun 2014 #20

Read the text of the Article MohRokTah Jun 2014 #22

I've been wondering about that a bit: California's resolution makes reference petronius Jun 2014 #29

Yes, sorta. I wrote a paper on this in college for a Political Theory class. Chan790 Jun 2014 #65

I didn't say anything about specific amendments radiclib Jun 2014 #34

Each state has equal representation in the convention. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #40

Either you didn't read, or deliberately chose not to understand, what I said radiclib Jun 2014 #45

No, you are completely wrong. Bartlet Jun 2014 #27

I agree with everything in your first paragraph and never said anything different. radiclib Jun 2014 #44

Every Republican in my state is totally corrupt, as are half the Democrats. This is a bad idea. Scuba Jun 2014 #72

Countless Republicans who have not been corrupted? dragonlady Jun 2014 #73

The last times it was amended, it took a percentage of congress PLUS shraby Jun 2014 #54

That's not how Art. V conventions work. Chan790 Jun 2014 #64

True. Theoretically they could throw out the entire constitution and replace totodeinhere Jun 2014 #69

you are right--this is a threat, not an opportunity kiri Jun 2014 #74

We are currently being bled dry both of our liberties and wealth. The status quo will only rhett o rick Jun 2014 #85

I refuse to support an Article V convention MohRokTah Jun 2014 #86

k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2014 #8

It can be done. pa28 Jun 2014 #13

K & R Iliyah Jun 2014 #16

As California goes, so goes the nation Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #17

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #19

ABSOLUTELY WORST IDEA EVER. OldRedneck Jun 2014 #24

I have always been taught how dangerous this is. grasswire Jun 2014 #31

More Info: WillyT Jun 2014 #42

It is playing with dynamite hueymahl Jun 2014 #80

+ struggle4progress Jun 2014 #38

True. A lot of right wingers have been calling for an Article V convention but for totodeinhere Jun 2014 #70

Congratulations California cantbeserious Jun 2014 #32

A little history on how we went from the Articles of Confederation ... Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #33

You are referring to the Constitutional Convention, which is different from Article V radiclib Jun 2014 #35

One more time: Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #37

There has not been an Article V convention in the entire history of this nation. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #49

First time for everything! radiclib Jun 2014 #50

I am positive an Article V Convention would make things worse. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #51

Just wondering.. radiclib Jun 2014 #53

So now you resort to an ad hominem in the form of a Fox News question. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #55

It very well might. At least some scholars believe that in an Article V Convention totodeinhere Jun 2014 #75

Thank you NCcoast Jun 2014 #52

California Dreamin' (thumbs up) K&R Babel_17 Jun 2014 #47

I'm not worried Dwayne Hicks Jun 2014 #58

8 additional states would easily vote for some very bad things. jeff47 Jun 2014 #76

No way Dwayne Hicks Jun 2014 #83

Democrats already voted for laws to enact such things. jeff47 Jun 2014 #84

Paul Ryan pushed this in 2012 to repeal the 14th Amendment with its clauses of freshwest Jun 2014 #59

I wouldn't argue with anything you've said NCcoast Jun 2014 #60

The amendment that has been offered is specific. No amendment in the Constitution after the 10th... freshwest Jun 2014 #61

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #62

Doooooo iiiiiiit Blue_Adept Jun 2014 #63

Being a Vermonter, I applaud California for following our lead salib Jun 2014 #66

Yes! One step closer to getting money out of politics. blackspade Jun 2014 #68

The people who like this really don't understand what they are unleashing. jeff47 Jun 2014 #77

You are 100% correct. It's the same thing I said upthread. totodeinhere Jun 2014 #79

Let me add to the Chorus - BAD, BAD IDEA!!!! hueymahl Jun 2014 #81

Just another feudal effort,,,, Cryptoad Jun 2014 #82