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38. Hillary Clinton isn't the candidate I intend to work for in the next election
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:13 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:57 PM - Edit history (3)

. . . she's not even likely to be my second choice; or even the third, if my choices falter. In fact, she was my third choice in the *last primary.

I actually support a more progressive politics than I think a Clinton campaign represents, and I regard matters of war and military involvement overseas as my most pressing concerns. Poverty and other social issues also animate me to participate in and discuss politics here at DU.

I'll say this, though, to your point about 'supporting Hillary'. If you regard defending Mrs. Clinton against the slander du jour as 'support' then so be it. I'm more than willing to stand beside ANY Clinton supporter here, if just to demonstrate that no one needs to allow themselves to be bullied out of that support by cliquish personalizations.

Funny that you regard the same discussion that Bernie welcomed as 'fear-mongering'. I mean, what do you have to fear about such a question? Really. Are you that fucking fragile that a question about his party identification will cause you to melt?

What are you afraid of? You used the word, 'fear'. What's so frightening about asking the same question that Bernie so graciously expounded on when asked of him?

I'll tell you this, I'm not voting for an Independent candidate. I'm not likely to vote for an 'Independent Democrat'. I don't believe the majority of the party will, either.

I doubt Bernie Sanders would do that. MineralMan Jun 2014 #1
he'll gain my full support bigtree Jun 2014 #2
He'll get my vote in the Minnesota primary if he does. MineralMan Jun 2014 #7
Would the Clintons allow that tho? Whisp Jun 2014 #6
They would have no choice, frankly. MineralMan Jun 2014 #11
The 'Clinton Mafia' and all that rot AgingAmerican Jun 2014 #36
My thoughts exactly. arcane1 Jun 2014 #10
Yup. It would be a pleasure to vote for him in the primary. MineralMan Jun 2014 #13
yes. nt BootinUp Jun 2014 #31
Maybe Hillary will be the independent running. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #52
I'm not voting for an Independent in a Presidential race. Wait Wut Jun 2014 #3
see :NADAR 2000 MFM008 Jun 2014 #4
I don't think he'd want to be a spoiler. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #5
Republican president in 2016 bradla Jun 2014 #8
It will certainly effect my vote. No nose holding required. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #9
He has said repeatedly that if he were to run, it would be as a Democrat. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #12
Bernie: 'The question you asked is extremely important, it requires a whole lot of discussion.' bigtree Jun 2014 #14
Bernie will NOT run as an independent. Period. I know Bernie. He's my Senator cali Jun 2014 #15
Bernie said in March that he's not decided on that . . . says it 'needs discussion' bigtree Jun 2014 #16
So let him discuss it Armstead Jun 2014 #32
news today says he's heading to New Hampshire bigtree Jun 2014 #42
You obviously have permission to discuss anything you want Armstead Jun 2014 #43
one thread about this is an 'odd obsession'? bigtree Jun 2014 #44
Well numerrous people have pointed out that he hasn't made a decision... Armstead Jun 2014 #45
did you even read my post? bigtree Jun 2014 #47
All of those scenerios are a long way down the road Armstead Jun 2014 #49
Has he implied that he would run as an independent? tritsofme Jun 2014 #17
Is there some reason to think he's going to run as an independent, LWolf Jun 2014 #18
Bernie: 'The question you asked is extremely important, it requires a whole lot of discussion' bigtree Jun 2014 #19
So...No. LWolf Jun 2014 #20
he actually did expound on his thinking on the subject - no derision, just answered bigtree Jun 2014 #21
Yes. He expounded on the fact that he doesn't have an answer at this time. nt LWolf Jun 2014 #22
and he welcomed discussion of the issue bigtree Jun 2014 #23
It's all in the way its framed. LWolf Jun 2014 #28
you believe what you're posting is inviolable because you support Sanders? bigtree Jun 2014 #35
I don't believe anything anyone says, in any format, is "inviolable." LWolf Jun 2014 #37
I'm not selling fear, I posed a question, gave my opinion bigtree Jun 2014 #40
No. LWolf Jun 2014 #46
bernie believes it's campaign season. He's heading to New Hampshire to test the waters bigtree Jun 2014 #48
Maybe he's just trying LWolf Jun 2014 #53
Fear-mongering seems to be the weapon du jour or semaine or mois, for Hillary supporters. djean111 Jun 2014 #27
Hillary Clinton isn't the candidate I intend to work for in the next election bigtree Jun 2014 #38
I am mindful of the fear-mongering when anyone criticizes Hillary, here - djean111 Jun 2014 #39
the history of a strong independent candidacy has played itself out several times in several ways bigtree Jun 2014 #41
Bernie Schwartz? OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #24
But Hillary is beloved and will get 700 million votes! leftstreet Jun 2014 #25
It will be yet another reason for Hillary to wander off MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #26
Bernie is running as a Democrat ChangeUp106 Jun 2014 #29
I don't believe he would purposefully hand it to the repukes. BootinUp Jun 2014 #30
The question is "What effect..." WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2014 #33
I'm not going to worry about it at this point. scarletwoman Jun 2014 #34
Whatever he does, it should be played very close to the vest and maximum leverage must be maintained TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #50
well, he's 72 bigtree Jun 2014 #51
I'm talking about leaning on the party with a trigger finger on the destruct button to extract TheKentuckian Jun 2014 #54
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