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Duncan is now on a ventilator [View all] magical thyme Oct 2014 OP

I haven't heard anything about the special new drub they used on the two envangelists. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #1

they ran out of Zmapp. magical thyme Oct 2014 #2

I bet Zmapp suddenly shows up for the NBC camera man. n/t JimDandy Oct 2014 #6

I'll take that bet. They didn't have it for Dr. Sacra. It won't be available for several months. nt magical thyme Oct 2014 #7

I am such a cynic any more due to JimDandy Oct 2014 #8

You can not produce ZMapp from dried tobacco. LisaL Oct 2014 #11

Thank you! n/t JimDandy Oct 2014 #12

Sacra was given a different experimental drug. LisaL Oct 2014 #9

I'd forgotten about that. The link says there's still a very short supply. magical thyme Oct 2014 #15

Well, he didn't lie and he acted responsibly, isolating himself and self-reporting. pnwmom Oct 2014 #28

Yes, let's withhold medicine from everyone who lies JimDandy Oct 2014 #31

I don't think they'll withhold medicine from anyone unless they don't have it. pnwmom Oct 2014 #32

Best health is a better criteria than who did or didn't lie. n/t JimDandy Oct 2014 #37

Hmm CNN now saying Zmapp can be made available to Mr Duncan JimDandy Oct 2014 #13

I wonder where that came from. As of yesterday, there was none available magical thyme Oct 2014 #16

I don't know where it came from. And that was a very oddly JimDandy Oct 2014 #19

ok, here is a link to CNN. They don't specify Zmapp but just experimental treatments in general magical thyme Oct 2014 #20

Apparently none left. longship Oct 2014 #3

His organs need maximum oxygen, due to the nature of the disease process and TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #4

I'm guessing the clotting preceeds or is the front end to the hemorrhagic phase magical thyme Oct 2014 #5

I'm guessing it's more similiar to the type of thing that happens with certain types TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #10

I just remember reading a description in the last week or two that reminded me of DIC, with magical thyme Oct 2014 #14

From what I've gathered, it is an overly done immune response, followed by DIC clotting, uppityperson Oct 2014 #23

Sounds plausible to me. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #27

I should've been a researcher. Would love to read a full pathophys write up. Hmmm. for later viewing uppityperson Oct 2014 #29

So immune response (cytokines) plus direct damage to endothelium is what causes TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #34

Some people think I am weird but I like to find out about things, find it interesting uppityperson Oct 2014 #40

Plus precise control of his acid-base. Barack_America Oct 2014 #21

Yep, blow off more CO2, or less, as needed. It must be hard to manage this guy-- TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #22

In full isolation setup. uppityperson Oct 2014 #24

Hot, cumbersome, takes twenty minutes to do something that usually takes 5, and TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #25

I'm surprised they ever classified him as "serious condition" Barack_America Oct 2014 #26

If they're lucky, no neurology or cardiology, I guess! With the combined critical care and huge TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #30

Absolutely. Barack_America Oct 2014 #35

If he has a brain bleed, due to the disease or heparin, does he go to CT? MRI? TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #36

Hopefully those folks they're quarantining stay clear. Barack_America Oct 2014 #39

I wonder why they didn't have him in ICU from the beginning? Is that a problem pnwmom Oct 2014 #33

They probably have an ICU set-up, wherever he is, but just didn't declare him critical TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #38

I thought I read that they were out of Zmapp and that duncan would not be getting any. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #17

I just provided a link stating that. The article is dated yesterday and based on everything I've magical thyme Oct 2014 #18

I think he's on the way out customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #41

time will tell. they will give him full support. late in the disease, even though there is massive magical thyme Oct 2014 #42

Any guesses as to how much this all costs? customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #43

not a clue. magical thyme Oct 2014 #44

It's a good question customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #45

there are significant costs to be had with banning travel as well. magical thyme Oct 2014 #46

Then someone needs to explain them customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #47