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loyalsister

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Mon Oct 20, 2014, 05:29 PM Oct 2014

We need a more honest conversation about marijuana [View all]

It is because I support decriminalization for personal non-medical use and making it available with physician recommendation that I bring this up. I have seen articles about how it can cure disease, etc. I am not a believer in any magical cure all and it irritates me that that seems to be the strategy of some.
My position is that people should not be going to jail for simple possession and I think that it should be available to people who will benefit medically. But, the issues that are ignored are reliability of dosing and ensuring the safest delivery. The argument that it is not addictive is a poor one, because people do sometimes use it in excess and can develop a dependency that negatively affects their mood and behavior.
There are reasonable arguments to be made without claiming miracles and harmlessness. That said, I recently cast an advisory vote to endorse a measure that would decriminalize very modest (2 plants) horticulture for medicinal use in my city. I would like to see us move in that direction nationwide and hope that there will be efforts to put forth convincing arguments that do not rely on cure-all and "grandpa smoked and drank his whole life and lived to be 100" anecdotes.


The problem is that marijuana is not, in fact, “harmless.” Proponents are spinning the science — casting pot as a threat only if used improperly, much like a car — for the sake of advancing their political agenda. It’s fine for people to believe the government has no business conducting a “war on drugs,” but it’s something else entirely to trivialize or simply deny marijuana’s harmful effects.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/20/the-junk-science-behind-the-marijuana-legalization-movement/?TID+SM_FB
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Tell you what, let's trade NightWatcher Oct 2014 #1
I am well aware of the damage RX drugs can do loyalsister Oct 2014 #3
Do you have Lupus? It sucks, the pain, the exhaustion. And the meds don't work, they just make Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #7
Yes, both SLE and lupus nephritis. NightWatcher Oct 2014 #11
SLE, Fibromyalgia, Raynauds, Hashimotos Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #13
we sound like we're trading baseball cards. I've that one, but not that one NightWatcher Oct 2014 #14
LOL....a good sense of humor is a must with our list of maladies. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #15
What causes the least harm? Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #2
prohibition is not worth a single life. A previous generation figured that out loyalsister Oct 2014 #5
There are still many lives lost from drunk driving Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #8
"No one dies from pot" loyalsister Oct 2014 #16
Anyone who has studied this issue... sendero Oct 2014 #21
absolutely impossible is not a judicious standard Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #22
Two plants can be a lot of pot. Done right, one plant is a pound of great stuff. panader0 Oct 2014 #4
It does reduce some legal ambiguity loyalsister Oct 2014 #6
The best part of ending prohibition is that there will be NO "major drug rings" Maedhros Oct 2014 #12
Agreed loyalsister Oct 2014 #18
Drug addiction at one time was primarily considered a health problem, Maedhros Oct 2014 #24
Enjoy your conversation. I just voted to make cannabis legal in my State. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #9
Good luck, the polls have been weird. Up and down. What do you think? nt Logical Oct 2014 #27
I talked to the Oregon campaign today. They said it all depends on turn-out. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #35
Good luck!!! nt Logical Oct 2014 #39
The author's group is a hell of a thing.... Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #10
More honest discussions like that from Dr. Christina Sanchez nationalize the fed Oct 2014 #17
Can there be a point where a person is no longer a 'responsible' marijuana user? Tikki Oct 2014 #19
Legalize it, regulate it, and tax it. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #20
Damn few things on this planet are completely harmless, that is not the right question to ask. nt bemildred Oct 2014 #23
The point here is it's not the right claim to make either loyalsister Oct 2014 #25
No serious advocate claims that marijuana is harmless. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #36
"More honest"? Really? Fumesucker Oct 2014 #26
More honest means that we pretend 90 years of reefer madness never happened Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #33
Bingo. Exactly correct. JEB Oct 2014 #41
Tachycardia, anxiety and extreme paranoia are some of the bad side effects Warpy Oct 2014 #28
"knows to find his highs elsewhere", what the hell does that mean? nt Logical Oct 2014 #30
If you can buy all the Tylenol and alcohol you want you should be able to buy all the marijuana you liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #29
I support MJ MMJ UglyGreed Oct 2014 #31
Fuck it. I like to get high. I shouldn't need anyone's permission or a doctor's note. Throd Oct 2014 #32
Exactly just be honest UglyGreed Oct 2014 #37
I would never wish MS on anyone CountAllVotes Oct 2014 #34
It doesn't "cure disease" - it's a pain killer. n/t UTUSN Oct 2014 #38
It's worth noting that medical marijuana comes in many forms and does help many conditions. nolabear Oct 2014 #40
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